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 Because the ban there stops me to read what they're posting (There are always low IQ administrators and/or moderators who think that by banning something they solve the issue), I was enough "farsighted" to save in a text file the posts from my last thread there (about my restaurant plan). The little problem is that a nickname didn't show well now -- it shows only question marks "? ?"; I suppose it's something written in Khmer language which my PC can't "read". (By the way, the Khmer language belongs to Austroasiatic language family, which is also known as "Mon-Khmer").
 So, that person comment that yes, of course, I may (to open a restaurant) but that doesn't mean I could or indeed should. Sounds so philosophical, right? Philosophical or not, the context is clear -- regardless of what I want to do in Cambodia -- teaching in some English school, working in some casino or opening own business (restaurant) -- many (most?) of them will say that it's not possible for me, it's not a good idea, better not to go there and so on. And I continue to wonder -- why then they are there?! Are all of them that much better than me that they can deal with the Cambodian reality successfully and I can't? I doubt.

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  A person with nickname "Spigzy" first answered that nicknamed "Stokely" (about the difference between the cooks and the philosophers in Cambodia) that those "damn cooks" are showing off all the time. Obviously it's some sort of local humor (or another sort of humor) that I can't get well. All I can say is that for many philosophers around the world the job problem is not a small one.
 It's unforgettable, I'll share it here:

Final exam

How do you plan to make a living whit a philosophy degree?

(Source: http://www.workjoke.com).

 Oh, at last I got the humor. Obviously it's some kind of popular, circulating joke because right now in workjoke.com I found a similar one -- "What's the difference between a philosopher and an engineer? About 50,000 a year."
 
 Well, okay, I do agree that many other professions (jobs) are better-paid than the philosophy one.
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 Another post, from the same author (Spigzy) -- he posted that he'll answer my last question and it's good that he was one of those who really answered seriously and I think he's one of the cleverest persons among those over there. So, he said that he arrived with a bunch of banking/tech skills after working 15 years in the City of London finance sector, and that that just didn't really exist there (in Cambodia) back in 2007. He noticed it on his first visit there when there were just 2 ATMs in the whole country - the light bulb went off that there would be opportunity in the sector (he also added that "only ANZR back then really was working on the 'next level', akin to what ABA is doing now" I don't know the meaning of these abbreviations but I'm getting the meaning. It's exactly what I was thinking -- there should be something that is still missing and someone, like me, who is not just an ordinary person (when it comes to IQ, education, future prognosis and so on) can start it.) He continued that opportunity there was, and he has been there ever since having now networked with the local folks he needs to integrate there longer term.
Another wise thing that he said is that he'd definitely recommend visiting the country first before "jumping in feet first" (the meaning of this idiom, I'm explaining it for our non-native English speakers users who're reading it, is "to approach a task or activity with little to no hesitation".); you can either confirm you've got a chance at whatever it might be - English teaching, cooking, etc. He said also that he knows successful expats in just about every sector he can think of, but again for every one of those there are maybe 5-10 who have tried and failed. (Which is a good reminder that we have to keep in mind the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias but also it shows to those discouraging ones that it's not something like what are they thinking. The situation is just not so pessimistic as they're trying to represent it.).
Another useful thing (that I knew but it's good to be supported with new information) is that he said he knows that even his favourite restaurants really struggled with COVID-19 losses, and some are still barely "treading water" (it's another English idiom, that means "being active without making any progress". I had to make it clear for our non-native English speakers readers) - and those are folks with decades of experience. Here I'd wish only to add that the experience is something important but also it's important what exactly is your product. Let's say that in some area people do prefer meat and you're struggling with your vegan restaurant. In this case a not very experienced steak restaurant owner will probably earn more than you even if you have 50 years of experience in cooking vegan dishes.
 And he agrees with Violet however that if we all just said "that's too hard", we'd get nowhere. (This is exactly the attitude I hate the most -- the "blockers" will all the time say something like that it's too hard, impossible, you're not good enough, you should be an expert in order to do it, etc. and the result is if you believe them you'll never even have a chance to make a success.)    At the end, his advice was: "So come here on a visit, do some serious homework whilst enjoying the lifestyle here, and then give it your best shot."
 I'm very thankful to Spigzy for his frank and objective comment. This is how people should answer -- objectively pointing to the good and the bad sides, to give polite and reasonable advices. And then the person will think and analyze the things better. The worst thing that can happen is you get pessimistic, useless, rude, etc. answers (like many of the others, some of which even full of false accusations and... if you're stupid enough to take them seriously they really may affect your good future.)

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That Alexandra admin of that Khmer Or Cambodian forum. Well at that time we were  with limited AdSense ads because of a subdomain of this forum which provides help for people who want to learn the scientific pickup and to be able to find real love in their life. We didn't know it is against the rules. So ... We were lack of ads at that time. And we are still lacking of other ads. Nobody wants to advertise in this omnilogy forum. So her "theory" that some guy is trying to attract poor Cambodian traffic here is funny as clown. Can't imagine there are people who will believe this low IQ story of hers. To be honest I saw few comments there that doubt her... so can't say that all expats there are low IQ guys... That is the fact. And about the fact that this forum is NOT SEO but Science-Education-Omnilogy or just Omnilogy ... I am not willing to try to excplain to her because it requires higher level of knowledge and logic which she hasn't. We wish her to become more clever in future! And wishing her good health, especially mental health.

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 This is an important moment! From this post (of someone with nickname RobW) started the bigger problem -- I had to answer that I'm not such a low quality expat (foreigner abroad) -- I do not use drugs and I'm a person who even don't imagine to do something terrible like that!!! I had to explain that I'm really much more educated and cultured that most of the people who'll just go there to "get stoned".
 Maybe that RobW didn't mean to be offensive or to joke, or maybe he wanted to be sarcastic and in this way to criticize the pointless and dangerous behavior of the foreigners who're using drugs. But I had to explain that I'm a serious and really healthy, reasonable and educated person with good culture who is not going to ruin his health and life in this way.
 Here is his exact post (because it's an important moment, i'll quote it 1:1. I'm trying to retell the posts, to avoid 100% copy-paste because I'm enough honest and I don't want to steal content from other websites! In fact it's even not useful because the Search engines do not like duplicated content. So, if Alexandra thinks that I'm just copy-pasting their content from MY THREAD ABOUT BUSINESS in Cambodia, she is just paranoidly wrong.) Once again -- I have to answer to all the people who gave some opinions or just pointless and stupid comments. And because this one (RobW's) was the beginning of my "resume" (which made some of them to jealous because they haven't my level) I have to show you 100%! Otherwise my answer will look like "I brag" and it is not. If I wanted to brag in front of UNKNOWN expats in Cambodia, I'll just do it at once; no need to wait someone to speak to me to "get stoned" and then to answer. And it's, in fact, pointless! Because I don't need their validation (recognition or affirmation that a person or his feelings/opinions are valid/worthwhile.)
 So here is what that RobW person said:

Somewhere on here, the inimitable Captain Bonez wrote a treatise on teaching the English. He made it sound pretty good: get stoned, teach some fun kids, get stoned, play pool, get stoned play guitar and drink beer. Fuck women, get stoned etc.
Kampot has some great restaurants. I'd say one for about every 6 people who can afford them. Each one seems to advertise every day on a Facebook page. Have a look. Phnom Penh has a gazillion great restaurants and the great, foreign and khmer, seem to be packed every night.
Anyway, I guess you'd have to spend a half year here before making a decision but you could get stoned and teach the English in the meantime.

And a short answer here to RobW:
 1/ I'm really, really sorry to say it again because I don't want to brag but my level of education, health orientation, culture and knowledge is very, very, very far away from "get stoned" and all kinds of drugs!
 2/ I do appreciate your middle part of the post where you're giving some hope about developing a restaurant in Cambodia.
 3/ Really the end of the post "get stoned" again makes me to feel terrible! I spent all my life to promote healthy lifestyle, to upgrade my own health and body. How exactly I can get this bad luck to receive such an "advice" about "get stoned"?
 That's it.

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 I'm really trying to find some job in China. Another school liked my demo class but again the same problem -- they're not able to give me a work visa. How to continue living in China in this way? I really hoped I can receive the chance to become a Chinese citizen or at least to obtain a Chinese green card! I spent more than 18 years of my life in PRC... and now even can't find a work visa job...
 So, really, I am really genuine about my wish at least to find this opportunity in Cambodia. Why someone will think that I am just wasting time in that Khmer forum to troll them or to attract Cambodian visitors here... this is really insane! Sorry to say this but there are more and more stupid and insane people around the world!

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Let me continue now. The interesting thing is that a person nicknamed "logos" said that Phnom Penh (the capital of Cambodia) is in urgent need of an open air, decent fish and chips restaurant.
 As far as I know it's an emblematic British dish. Probably it's a good idea. Thanks for the good answer, logos!
 Oh, I almost forgot logos' two caveats: 1. "preemptive ban of Australian females" (No idea what is this anti-Australian and sexist joke (I suppose, it's a joke, otherwise what else it can be? I'm not going to discriminate customers in any way.)), 2. " learn to slip a tenner discreetly" (For those who're not learning the English slang well enough -- "tenner" is a ten-pound banknote..)

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Some Guest (!X3Mknh.JZI) posted abnormal answer which was: "At the other hand, being in the possession of a micropenis should not hold you back from opening a restaurant." and finished it with "Just sayin'."

Do you think that this kind of "answers" are useful for a person who is in need (to find job as soon as possible or to establish some little business just to survive in this life) and asking seriously about a problem? Not at all! Low level of empathy and low level of elementary ethics.

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 That "violet" person quoted "Hanno"'s person post and comment that especially if hiring a manager rather than working yourself, which is exactly my point (maybe just repeated it or just has the same one). If you have enough capital and you don't know well the business you're developing, then if you have a good, knowledgeable and skillful manager, then it's quite possible to have success because you just got the same result.
 Many people will limited knowledge and/or imagination think that if a rich (rich enough) person has no idea how to make a certain business than he/she is doomed. In fact, it's not true. See this: imagine that you can't make a website but you have a friend or you hire someone who is a good webmaster. Then what? Of course you'll have a good website and even a better one (a better that many websites of people who just know how to make websites but who are not as good as your webmaster).
 Simple logic. But not everyone is clever enough to get it.

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 Violet also added there that it's excellent and that "I'd escape the ban". It was as an answer to those "2 caveats" of that logos person. The people are joking something about the Australian females but these jokes are not helping me. And then someone is asking if only when people do agree with me I consider it helpful. Not at all; you can disagree and still to make a good, helpful or at least useful comment. Information like "I'm not from Australia." in a topic about how to start a restaurant in Cambodia is 100% useless and 100% not helpful.

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 Some person with the name (or nickname?) "YaTingPom" said that we should not forget that running any business isn't a 9 to 5 job. He or she thinks that it's all consuming 24/7. Well, I think that it's only until you earn enough to hire more people who'll work for you. "The owner is the cook, the waiter and the cleaner." is a good start but if you do it non-stop, you can't call yourself a businessman, right? At one point you're generating enough capital to hire, at least step by step, some personnel. Then it'll not consuming you 24/7, right?

 Another point that Ya Ting Pom made was that even if you've got a day off you'll be thinking about work and that even the last thing you think about before you drop off to sleep, "after that ladyboy", is work. Here I must add 2 points:
 1. Not every person is dealing with ladyboys.
 2. Not every person is willing to think about job. I even avoid to talk about it when I'm not working. I focus on other things like science, philosophy, reading news, sports...

 The last point that he/she made was that "Work, work, work." (that's the main reason people give up. Not because of "personal reasons", "concentrating on other projects" or financial constraints. Oh, here I have to say it again -- there are many different people. Some of them really may gave up because of the "work, work, work" because they're lazy or burned-out (which means (of a person) in a state of physical or mental collapse caused by overwork or stress.)
 But there are plenty of people who really can't continue it because of financial constraints or personal reasons, etc.

He/she also added that it seems that any western restaurant there (especially Kampot) opens with a flurry of interest and lots of comments and then it slowly dies off to a dribble.

This is something useful -- probably most of the restaurants in Kampot are not good enough to survive in that environment.

And the conclusion is that some people are not meant to run businesses. (I do agree.)

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 As I mentioned already after I saw how many people think that I'm not capable to do simple things like teaching foreign language or start a restaurant and even some supposed that I may use drugs, deal with ladyboys or something else that I even don't want to imagine, I decided to explain that I'm not so degraded and that I'm even more educated, knowledgeable and capable than most of the common (average) people. I knew that it'll make them to start to jealous and to feel sort of sad because of their inferiority but I had to say the truth! I didn't spend years of learning, sporting and self-developing only to read how they think of me as somebody average or even degraded who is going there to fail, to lose, to do stupid things and so on.
 And here was my answer (Wed Jun 01, 2022 2:59 pm)

"Some fast answers:

1. I'm really not a person who will use drugs to get "stoned". I even don't smoke and do not drink hard alcohol. I do 5 kind of sports.


2. I'm highly educated person (a writer, a philosopher, a webmaster, a sportsman, i. e. something like the old time's encyclopedists) who never stops reading and learning especially in the field of psychology, anthropology, history, sexology and other things related to human nature. I'm writing poems and different types of e-books (about human love, losing weight, sinology, etc.) If there weren't so many limitations for the foreigners in China, I could get better just because of the knowledge I posses, which believe me, is huge compared with the commoners'.

Hence, because I'm a good, sporty, educated and social person, I do think that maybe I have at least the same chances like the rest of people -- stoners, criminals, uneducated, semi-educated, etc.

There is no logic that exactly a rarely healthy, full of knowledge and sporty person like me, will do the things worse than most of the people, who are not that well educated, healthy, sporty, experienced, etc. Sorry to say that (I know many will think of virtual signaling like "Be modest, dude!"), but I'm not just "one ordinary guy". And I'm nearly 50 years old already to take me as a non-serious teenager who just want to SEAmaxx over there.

I STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH THAT IMPLACABLE ATTITUDE: "Look man, the uneducated man from the village over there who even doesn't make difference between "Canada" and Mexico + who even doesn't know what the "imaginary unit" in math is, CAN RUN A RESTAURANT and to be rich. But you, man, nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo... It's too difficult for you to run a restaurant." :-D :-D
Why, the h*eck, we're reading, learning, thinking, writing and so on, IF the lower educated class can make those simple businesses better than us?! Yes, if I say "I want to produce cars." or "I wanna make watches.", you may say it's not possible, but A RESTAURANT that even people without basic math's, ads', hygiene's and business' skills can do... It's a kind of insult for my intelligent being. :thumbsup: (Nota bene!)

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3. And now about the restaurants. If you think that in Asia (and in China, for sure) to make a successful restaurant you need knowledge and experience, you're really not familiar with how many LACKING OF BASIC HYGIENE AND BASIC ECONOMICS KNOWLEDGE people DO successful restaurants around.

3.1. Picture number 1: ... (They just set up some tables in front of the polluted street and selling fast food. Customers -- granted!)

3.2. Picture number 2: ... (They don't care that the kitchen looks likes a pig farm or something. But the customers don't mind or just don't go inside to see it.)


And yes, why not to run even a hotel (if you have the capital and if it's not during the COVIDization or another problems)? I don't understand what is the problem if a person tries to establish at least 1 little business or to find an ordinary job in that country?! The killing impression is "WE CAN be here and we are here, but you CAN'T and you're not welcome."

4. Thank you for the well manared and the helpful answers (most of them are). I do agree that the best is first to go there. I'm just afraid not to do the same mistake -- they (in the Chinese embassy, in 1993) told me that in China I'll get citizenship in 5 years and I believed all the Chinese propaganda at that time. When I came here I saw that it's even nearly impossible to get a Green card. They're giving these only to very useful foreigners. I'm not enough useful (for example a popular footballer or a nuclear genius). Of course, at the end, probably I really have to just go to Cambodia without any concrete plan, because there you can at least have a working visa. Recently in China the xenophobia (and/or protectionism) is so high that the working visas' opportunities were limited too. Less and less foreigners in China. It's so sad, because I really believed I can become a Chinese citizen and to help this country to build a real socialistic society, not nationalistic empire what it looks like now. (During Hu Jintao's rule it was pretty democratic and enough free, and open. Not now.)
In China the foreigners can't find job like cleaners, waiters and so on, like in other places like Japan for example, where you can see people working all the jobs like the Japanese people. In most of the cases if you're not an exchange student or married, you have to leave it. Well, even the married people when can't find jobs and have no own capital have no choice and are going to leave, because to find a working visa job here is getting less and less possible.
 And as I said, if most of the foreigners there are like those, mostly not willing to help and even make the things worse for you, plus if the local people are something like them (that I hope no) I better to do my best somehow to apply for a Chinese green card. The good news that we found recently is that some foreigners already got their Chinese green cards even without work visas! This sounds so optimistic. All together -- more than 7000 as far as I know for the last nearly 18 years or something like this. So, I hope that I can continue in China with a Chinese Green card but if I can't, I don't know... still hope that the Cambodians are better than those expats that only insult, play jokes, speak useless things and discourage the rest of the people who also would like to live abroad, over there.

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RobW said "^ Can't read all that, fella."
Usually many people nowadays have no time and/or habit to read a longer post.

He added that he remembers I said something about economics and hiring managers etc. and that doesn't think I "need a PhD in your economicals to run the numbahs on that though."

As far as I understand this, he agrees that even people without some serious economics background and philosophical knowledge are able to run something as simple as a restaurant. This was my point too.

and the end he finished with "You will work at Beltei and you will like it."

I suppose I will do it if I can't get a Chinese Green card and I'm able to start living in Cambodia. Thanks for the suggestion Rob!

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Argumentum ad crumenam (argument to the purse)

  Answer to someone who has got the logical fallacy called "argumentum ad crumenam" (a.k.a. "argument to the purse"). People who use this fallacy think that the clever people are always rich and the rich people are always clever. It only shows that they lack of (not only) the right logic but also life experience. If you live enough long and you're enough clever to understand what you experience in your life, you'll meet at least one clever person who is poor and at least one stupid person who is rich (and you will realize the simple fact that "clever" doesn't necessarily imply "rich").
 Well, here we have an example of a person who lacks right logic and/or enough life experience.
 Look at this funny opinion:

Post by ? ? Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:58 pm
So in summary, you are extremely intelligent, like a higher intellect than most other people.
You will make a success of anything you try because of said intellect.

I wonder how, with someone so clever and prone to being successful that at 50 years old you when you sell up everything to move here you’ll only be able to scrape together around $39,000.

It doesn’t quite add up so I suggest that perhaps you aren’t as great as you think you are, or maybe you are just trolling.

Beltei it will be.

1. If you knew that there is something like that --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_crumenam you're not going to say something so ridiculous like that.
2. Many dumb criminals are rich. They become rich via dumb things like selling drugs or other illegal activities which doesn't require high IQ. Does it makes them a good, clever people?
 At the same time, in some poor countries (like the East European one where I am coming from) even professors are poor and some of them have to search food in the garbage bins. So? Does the poverty makes them bad, stupid people?
 If you have a minimum intellect, think for a while and maybe you'll get it.
3. I said I can succeed in most of the simple businesses like making a restaurant because even people with low education and low hygiene can do this! I didn't say "anything I try". Your reading-and-understanding ability isn't great, is it?
4. I have no time to troll. And only people who have no enough education and/or empathy can suppose that I'm looking for help during my poverty and difficult time just to troll some expats in Cambodia via their Khmer oriented forum.
5. I doubt you can understand what I mean. But I answer because I hope some more educated people will understand it, i. e. it''s not a waste of time if it may help at least somebody else to understand some simple truths about logical fallacies, poverty, education, success, reading abilities, etc.

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Typical argumentum ad crumenam.

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 I don't know why there so many guests are posting; maybe they are lazy to log in or maybe they're afraid that the abnormal Alexandra administrator will ban them for no reason... but, whatever. The next answer of mine is to another guest who said "Tutor private students from the moneyed classes."
 Dear guest, thank you for the idea! I am not sure what are these "moneyed" classes you're typing about but, usually, currently it is what I can do; it's my main income (to be a teacher and an advisor sometimes). The science and the moderation of the forum over here doesn't bring me enough income at all. Currently I have some private students which I'm teaching with a Chinese partner. Well, we'll see what the future is going to be.