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About Skimur

  Do you know about Skimur (I mean the website skimur.com -- https://skimur.com)? It's a new website. Its owner and admin is pknopf. I wanted to post some good words about him earlier, but I already had some bad experience with other admins online, so I decided to wait for a while. Now, I'm already

Member for: 7 days

and soon I'll be a member for 8 days, so I'd like to post my good words and to express my good hope here, in this website, where I serve from 2011.
 

Responsible, active and skillful admin

As I mentioned above pknopf is a person, I'd like to post some good words about and now I'll do it:

• The man is a good developer. Probably I'm not the best one, who can judge about his developer's skills, because I'm just an ordinary webmaster, but everyone may see the results of his hard work and to judge by himself/herself.
• He is very responsive and not just responsive, but responsible, too. This is something that I value a lot. He pays attention to every suggestion, debate, etc., and he is taking measures on time.
• Some of the best contributors to Skimur.com already got a small present from him. It's so touching -- most of the website owners only wants to receive, not to give. And this man is not only a receiver, he is a giver, which is precious!
• He said, he is objective; for instance, even you don't share his political, religious, etc. point of view, he is still going to be okay with you. It's a very good personal quality, that I have got too and that I do respect very, very much!
• He is polite (at least online; I don't know him offline). It makes also a good impression, because I am sick of some other admins, who post answers rudely to their users, who attack their users with lies, who are obscene, etc.
• He improves Skimur.com almost daily! The site is getting better and better.
• He was one of the first people I met online, who AT ONCE understood, that this website (that I linked already a few times) IS NOT just an SE optimization website, but mostly omnilogical (for almost everything) website and he never said I'm a spammer or something else (this innuendo about us I faced already in some other websites).
• He is active and not lazy. When he has to do something about the Skimur, he is doing it and we'e enjoying the results.

May be I missed something?

May be I didn't point to some important-and-good side of Skimur and/or its admin, but I believe you, who read it, will understand that it's a virtual place, that you should give a try. Don't hesitate to visit it; if you like it, register and become one of its currently good community!
Useful info:

• Skimur = skimmer. The skimmers (Rynchopidae) are a small family of tern-like birds. More about them in Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skimmer
• The subs in Skimur.com are not /r as in Reddit, nor /v as in Voat. The Skimur's subs are just /s. Remember: 's' for Skimur and 's' for its subs. For example if you want to see the Skimur's technology place, you should visit: https://skimur.com/s/technology.
• Skimur.com's karma/points are named 'kudos'. It's an Ancient Greek word ('κῦδος') and I like it.
• In Skimur the downvote brigading is NOT welcome! So, if you want to participate honestly, you're warmly welcome; and take a look at Skimur.com's content policy, of course: https://skimur.com/help/contentpolicy

  So, as one of the first skimurers I'd be glad to know you there! If you're a new skimurer, many of us, will be glad to help and assist you!
 Welcome and don't be evil!

[SEO]

 Cool. It's growing fast.

[И.]

 I like it.

[Gay]

 A new Internet star? Maybe so, maybe so.

[英语课]

 Good website. I'll register there soon.

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I hope skimur.com/s/fatpeoplehate will be nothing like voat.co/v/fatpeoplehate

  Well, there is already fatpeoplehate in Skimur, i.e. skimur.com/s/fatpeoplehate. Its creator is someone nicknamed 'The' from Skimur.com (and the current rule there is

A place for friendly discussion about fat people. Please, no aggression/hatred.

). I hope this sub (i.e. /s) is not going to be like voat.co/v/fatpeoplehate. As it was mentioned already many times (for example in this thread about Voat.co) the problems in voat fatpeoplehate (voat.co's fatpeoplehate) are a lot:

• Haters, who don't keep the rule
• Vote brigading
• Mods, who behave subjectively and rude.
• Main mod (nicknamed 'The_Penis_Wizard'), who sends insults and ban people, even without they have faults. (Including bans with innuendo like 'fat', even when nobody saw is he/she really fat.)
• Aggressive sizeism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sizeism) and anti-fat bias (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-fat_bias)
• and so on.

I don't know, if 'The' from skimur.com is the same 'The_Penis_Wizard' from voat.co, but it's not very important, because everyone have to have a second chance, but I post it here as an alert and I'll post it in skimur.com too, soon.

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'Skimur' in Chinese, Korean, Bulgarian, Russian and Turkish

  As a brand with international potential Skimur should have its foreign names. I suggest these:
1. 'Skimur' in Chinese: 思奇魔儿
2. 'Skimur' in Korean: 스키머
3. 'Skimur' in Bulgarian: Скимър
4. 'Skimur' in Russian: Скимэр
5. 'Skimur' in Turkish: Skimır.

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Skimur: Speak, be heard.

I like this Skimur's motto.

Speak, be heard.

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 Oh! I got this, when I wanted to visit Skimur right now:

Server Error in '/' Application.
The task didn't complete before timeout.
Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information about the error and where it originated in the code.

Exception Details: System.TimeoutException: The task didn't complete before timeout.

Source Error:

An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can be identified using the exception stack trace below.

Stack Trace:


[TimeoutException: The task didn't complete before timeout.]
   Cassandra.Tasks.TaskHelper.WaitToComplete(Task task, Int32 timeout) +150
   Cassandra.ControlConnection.Init() +170
   Cassandra.Cluster.Init() +1217
   Cassandra.Cluster.ConnectAndCreateDefaultKeyspaceIfNotExists(Dictionary`2 replication, Boolean durableWrites) +32
   lambda_method(Closure ) +83
   SimpleInjector.Lifestyles.SingletonLifestyleRegistrationBase`1.CreateInstanceWithNullCheck() +82
   System.Lazy`1.CreateValue() +14337348
   System.Lazy`1.LazyInitValue() +524
   SimpleInjector.Lifestyles.SingletonLifestyleRegistrationBase`1.BuildExpression() +26
   SimpleInjector.Registration.BuildExpression(InstanceProducer producer) +62
   SimpleInjector.InstanceProducer.BuildExpressionInternal() +55
   System.Lazy`1.CreateValue() +14337348
   System.Lazy`1.LazyInitValue() +524
   SimpleInjector.InstanceProducer.BuildInstanceCreator() +125
   SimpleInjector.InstanceProducer.BuildAndReplaceInstanceCreatorAndCreateFirstInstance() +17
   SimpleInjector.InstanceProducer.GetInstance() +91

[ActivationException: The registered delegate for type ISession threw an exception. The task didn't complete before timeout.]
   SimpleInjector.InstanceProducer.GetInstance() +511
   SimpleInjector.Container.GetInstance() +190
   Infrastructure.Cassandra.Migrations.Migrations.Run(Container container) in C:\projects\skimur\src\Infrastructure\Infrastructure.Cassandra\Migrations\Migrations.cs:16
   System.Action`1.Invoke(T obj) +0
   Skimur.SkimurContext.Initialize(IRegistrar[] registrars) in C:\projects\skimur\src\Skimur\SkimurContext.cs:24
   Skimur.Web.Public.Startup.Configuration(IAppBuilder app) in C:\projects\skimur\src\Skimur.Web.Public\Startup.cs:41

[TargetInvocationException: Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation.]
   System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeMethod(Object target, Object[] arguments, Signature sig, Boolean constructor) +0
   System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.UnsafeInvokeInternal(Object obj, Object[] parameters, Object[] arguments) +76
   System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.Invoke(Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture) +211
   System.Reflection.MethodBase.Invoke(Object obj, Object[] parameters) +35
   Owin.Loader.<>c__DisplayClass1.<LoadImplementation>b__0(IAppBuilder builder) +341
   Microsoft.Owin.Host.SystemWeb.OwinAppContext.Initialize(Action`1 startup) +1043
   Microsoft.Owin.Host.SystemWeb.OwinHttpModule.InitializeBlueprint() +119
   System.Threading.LazyInitializer.EnsureInitializedCore(T& target, Boolean& initialized, Object& syncLock, Func`1 valueFactory) +241
   Microsoft.Owin.Host.SystemWeb.OwinHttpModule.Init(HttpApplication context) +129
   System.Web.HttpApplication.RegisterEventSubscriptionsWithIIS(IntPtr appContext, HttpContext context, MethodInfo[] handlers) +530
   System.Web.HttpApplication.InitSpecial(HttpApplicationState state, MethodInfo[] handlers, IntPtr appContext, HttpContext context) +304
   System.Web.HttpApplicationFactory.GetSpecialApplicationInstance(IntPtr appContext, HttpContext context) +404
   System.Web.Hosting.PipelineRuntime.InitializeApplication(IntPtr appContext) +475

[HttpException (0x80004005): Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation.]
   System.Web.HttpRuntime.FirstRequestInit(HttpContext context) +12618980
   System.Web.HttpRuntime.EnsureFirstRequestInit(HttpContext context) +159
   System.Web.HttpRuntime.ProcessRequestNotificationPrivate(IIS7WorkerRequest wr, HttpContext context) +12458597


Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:4.0.30319; ASP.NET Version:4.0.30319.34280

I hope it'll work well soon!!!

[Non-SEO]

 Skimur works well now.

[MSL]

 I (and another member of this forum) left Skimur.com. If you wonder why, here is why:

A Friendly 'Good-bye' from us (Georgi and Juanita)
Posted 21 hours ago by Georgi to /s/whatever
Hi, dear folks! Some of you were already informed in our semi-private discussions that I (we) are leaving peacefully Skimur.com. Peacefully and friendly! We're not angry to anyone and we're happy that we had a REALLY great time here till now! (And now, for those of you, who cares 'why' and/or didn't read my last answers to some of the skimurers here, let me quote the important points):

I DON'T WANT TO BE A PART OF A PLACE, WHERE HATER/DISCRIMINATION PEOPLE MAY CO-EXIST WITH ME. I WILL FEEL VERY SICK, EVEN, IF I DON'T READ THEIR CONTENT, TO BE A PART OF THE COMMUNITY, WHERE 'THE NEXT DOOR' /THE NEXT SUB/ SOMEONE SPREAD HATRED, HATE SPEECH AND DISCRIMINATION AGAINST OTHER PEOPLE, JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE BLACK/YELLOW/WHITE, FAT/SLIM/TALL/SHORT, DISABLED, ETC. IT'S NOT A PART OF MY HUMANISM, MY PACIFISM AND MY HARMONY ORIENTED CULTURE.)

(If a haters'/discrimination group make a sub here) it will just exist here. (@pknopf was honest enough to tell me this, and I do appreciate it). For me it means, Skimur potentially may become a 'Voat Number 2' (a place that many of us left, because exactly of those problems -- the hate, the lies and innuendos, the aggression, the discrimination).

So, I wish to say a friendly 'Good-bye' and 'Thanks' for the /really/ good time here!... (I leave as a friend, no bad feeling to you or to other people here! I just can't afford to be in a place, which is potentially able to host hate, discrimination, rudeness and other things against my core values.) Good luck!

...my Skype is 'conradbest' (in case... someone else needs me or just would like to chat from time to time).
Well, let me say my final 'Good-bye' and I wish you all the best and may your good wishes come true!
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 Because I don't want to post there anymore, I'll give some answers here. Soon.

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Answer to MetalPhoenix

  The person nicknamed MetalPhoenix in Skimur.com still posts answer to me, even I told him I'm leaving (it's in the topic about the Bosnian Muslim Atif Colo -- "Atko has a post deleted, whines, and proposes changes so his posts don't get deleted - despite it being a suggested feature for months now.
"). As far as I keep my word, and I'll answer him here to his recent answer.
 In response to my "Ethnocentrism?! I'm a person from Bulgaria (East Europe) and I live in China (multi-ethnic country) and my wife is a Chinese citizen... and ethnocentric" he posted:

Yes, you can't help but be because you have not experienced it and are saying that these things are crimes. Still waiting on that evidence, by the way.

My answer:
1. Of course the lie, innuendo, defamation, criminal threads, etc. ARE crimes according to different laws around the world.
2. I have not experienced? I'm 40+ years old, I visited 3 continents, I got Master's degree at Philosophy and Philosophical anthropology, I can speak a few foreign languages, but I'm the one, who is not experienced?! Strange criteria.
3. What kind of evidence do you wait for? I said I'm leaving that place and you're waiting. Okay, let's give you some evidence like I teach the kids: if something is bad and this bad thing makes you to go to jail, it's a crime. I hope this definition is enough for you as a beginning. After this intro, let's read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation#Criminal_defamation (I hope this time you'll read AT LEAST THIS SHORT ARTICLE, because seems you didn't read my previous links.) If you really read it, I hope you're enough intelligent young man, who will understand why it's a crime.
 Do you need to explain also about the other things like why killing people is a crime or, at least, those ones you know?
I am serious. Because I'm surprised to meet someone, who can't recognize elementary crimes as such. Seems like for you everything is allowed and everything is legal. Have to inform you, it's NOT. Read more laws and keep the laws. This is my friendly suggestion, MetalPhoenix man!
 In response to my "Adam and Eve? Sins? Mythological/religious creatures. Not interested
" he answered:

You should be because it's an apt analogy. Every myth teaches a lesson no matter how fictional it may be. So allow me to explain it to you:

The claim is that God kept humanity in intellectual slavery. The evidence of this is that God said "Don't do this thing that will allow you to learn more, to learn from mistakes, to know the difference between right and wrong." This results in a child-like intellect. Knowing these things allows you to step forward, to choose not to do that thing that is wrong. This is critical in the growth of a child into adulthood. It is also critical for the growth of a country or humanity as a whole.

My answer to this is:
1. The analogy is not good, because it states that something un-real is real. Every imaginary story may have different content, different values, different points of view. I don't think that the religions with their primitive and semi-primitive explanations of the world, people, development, etc. are good way to prove me something.
2. Every myth teaches a lesson? And why should a science oriented philosopher from 21-st century to learn lessons from people, who even didn't know Hegel, microbiology, OS, etc.? If this is enough for your level, it's not enough for my level. I'm interested in real science, not in 'sayings' that we're made of ground via some Super-power named 'God'. No, thanks!
3. Isn't it strange that someone so Bible-oriented is totally okay with the lies, innuendos, criminal threads, racism... hatred... and all those aggression, discrimination?! It's not Christian at all!
4. You don't need to explain me so simple things like the Christian religion. I learned about these things (religions, Christian philosophy, Medieval philosophy, etc.) long time in the biggest university in my European country.
5. Yeah... I see the 'growth' over there: rappers singing dirty and aggressive words, kids using guns, different hatred groups flourish... If you 'grow' in this way, the future showed in the 'Idiocracy' (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy) is certain. /Well, it's not a myth, but you may like it. /
 In response to my "You call the degradation in the US, where even in the schools people use guns, where rappers are singing how will fuck mothers and so on growth?! It's degradation, not growth. Some wise Americans said the US were a good country, but it's not anymore. And the degradation is obvious." he answered:

Sorry, man. Degradation compared to what? Compared to your moral judgement? Compared to 50 years ago? Of a country you aren't in? What kind of authority can you claim to speak on the matter since you haven't even lived here?

Until you can answer these questions with legitimate responses, you have no right to make comparisons and your response on the matter is suspect because your logic, experience, and observations are completely lacking and flawed. Until you can speak to any of those, you can't make any claims and are doing this to stir up problems.

Unless you can come up with legitimate answers, there's no point in continuing any discussion with you on the subject because you cannot speak to it from wisdom, only your own desires. And I warned you about that in the first reply. So, like I said, restricting what others do based on your moral authority. The problem is that you don't have authority because you can't speak to the culture or the situation or the laws. Only what you want. Incidentally, this is ethnocentrism.

So just stop, already.

 And my answer here:
1. Degradation compared not to my moral judgement. My moral judgement is not an object of comparison here? Compared to 50 years ago? YES, it's a good point! Let's compare for example the songs of Elvis Presley and those aggressive rap songs nowadays. Or let's compare the situation in Detroit, if you wish? Whatever you wish.
2. Ohhh... This is precious -- I'm not in some country, thus I don't know anything about it. Interesting position, but valid probably 2000 years ago. Now it's not so valid and I'll tell you why:

• Books. I read some books. In some of them there is information about the other countries. Interesting, isn't it?
• TV (aka 'television'). There are news about other countries, not only local news.
• Internet. You know -- some websites may show videos from abroad... news,... photos,... immigrants... A lot of information.

So... let me disagree that you don't live in a country and you know nothing about it. I often use this example: we didn't visit Mars, but we have some knowledge about it. NASA, you know...
3. I can speak about everything 'from wisdom', because I'm a philosopher. Philosophy originally is a Greek word and it means "Love-wisdom", "love of wisdom" or "friend of wisdom". I was a very good student, trust me.
4. Legitimate responses? How more legitimate you need? And what's your definition of 'legitimate response'?!
5. My your logic, experience, and observations are completely lacking and flawed? LOL! I learned 'Logic' and 'Dialectical Logic'. My experience is from 3 continents. My observations, knowledge and so on is probably 3-4 times bigger than yours. And you think that I'm lacking of this... Not surprised to hear this from a person, who doesn't know that hate speech (and discrimination) is a kind of crime, for example.
6. I have authority as a philosopher and as a well informed middle age man. At the same time you have no idea what's good, bad, legal, illegal, etc. You're the one, who need to learn some basic things first.
7. I see you don't know what's the meaning of the word 'ethnocentrism'. I already explained that I'm an internationalist, pacifist, etc., but... lack of knowledge. I'd like to give you a link about it, too, but I already gave you one above and I hope you'll read at least that one. Try to understand the things STEP BY STEP, you can't get it, at once. Because you like simple things like Adam and Eve tales, let me express it simply with a proverb: "Rome wasn't built in a day."
 If you want to answer again, come here, because as I said, I left Skimur.com (because it's obvious it may become 'Voat N'2'), and I'll participate mostly here now.

[И.]

I (and another member of this forum) left Skimur.com. If you wonder why, here is why:

A Friendly 'Good-bye' from us (Georgi and Juanita)
Posted 21 hours ago by Georgi to /s/whatever
Hi, dear folks! Some of you were already informed in our semi-private discussions that I (we) are leaving peacefully Skimur.com. Peacefully and friendly! We're not angry to anyone and we're happy that we had a REALLY great time here till now! (And now, for those of you, who cares 'why' and/or didn't read my last answers to some of the skimurers here, let me quote the important points):

I DON'T WANT TO BE A PART OF A PLACE, WHERE HATER/DISCRIMINATION PEOPLE MAY CO-EXIST WITH ME. I WILL FEEL VERY SICK, EVEN, IF I DON'T READ THEIR CONTENT, TO BE A PART OF THE COMMUNITY, WHERE 'THE NEXT DOOR' /THE NEXT SUB/ SOMEONE SPREAD HATRED, HATE SPEECH AND DISCRIMINATION AGAINST OTHER PEOPLE, JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE BLACK/YELLOW/WHITE, FAT/SLIM/TALL/SHORT, DISABLED, ETC. IT'S NOT A PART OF MY HUMANISM, MY PACIFISM AND MY HARMONY ORIENTED CULTURE.)

(If a haters'/discrimination group make a sub here) it will just exist here. (@pknopf was honest enough to tell me this, and I do appreciate it). For me it means, Skimur potentially may become a 'Voat Number 2' (a place that many of us left, because exactly of those problems -- the hate, the lies and innuendos, the aggression, the discrimination).

So, I wish to say a friendly 'Good-bye' and 'Thanks' for the /really/ good time here!... (I leave as a friend, no bad feeling to you or to other people here! I just can't afford to be in a place, which is potentially able to host hate, discrimination, rudeness and other things against my core values.) Good luck!

...my Skype is 'conradbest' (in case... someone else needs me or just would like to chat from time to time).
Well, let me say my final 'Good-bye' and I wish you all the best and may your good wishes come true!
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 Because I don't want to post there anymore, I'll give some answers here. Soon.

I even didn't registered there. I didn't tell you here, but all the time I was thinking about it: if the haters start to join there Pknopf is not going to stop them. He is ultraliberal and this is the problem. When he answered

Everybody needs their place.

I decided not to make an account there (like in Voat.co and others) and now I know it was a good decision. One Voat.co is enough for me and I don't want to have the same problems again, if the doors of Skimur are open for everybody regardless his/her insanity, morals and so on.

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From a SEO point of view... I'm very skeptic about the growth of this website. You see here we're working very hard for years; we use 4 different languages; we post different unique content; we did good white hat and green hat SEO. And we're still not ranked very high. We're  powerful and we're famous, but not enough. Skimur has more opportunities than us, but I don't think it'll reach the level of sites as Reddit, Pinterest, etc. The best I may see is something like Voat dot co at his present level and nothing more. I think that person Paul Knopf isn't a bad guy and he's a good developer, so I wish him the best, but it's not only up to him.
Yes, I want to agree about it: once you make a place ultra-liberal, then the shitposting, the hatred and the other 'poison' is going to destroy your site in one or another way. But it's none of our business.

[Non-SEO]

Seems a hot thread here. I'm in! Okay. What I can say? I'm proud of the efforts of guys like you. No lazy asses around. But the policy is different. Too liberal? Okay, but then what? Who will invest, who will order some ads in your website, when it's full of low quality posts and the visitors drop like autumn leaves one by one? This is my 50 cents here. Enjoy.