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Time travel, time machine -- just impossible
« on: March 26, 2014, 01:42:12 AM »

There is no time travel and time machine,

because the "time" is just a human fabrication

 What is this "Time travel"? Well, Time travel is just a concept of moving between different points in time (for example from 2014 to 3478 or to 1738 and so on) in a manner analogous to moving between different points in space (for example from China to Canada or to Indonesia and so on). ;D And what is this "Time machine"? This is the theoretical invention, which some believe will be able to "transport" you from "one time" to "another time".  ;D ;D
 Now let me tell you why all these "things" are just impossible:
1. There is no such thing as physical/material/substantial time. The time is ONLY a measure. It measures the motion of the things (for instance - the motion of the Sun, the motion of the Moon, the motion of the sand, etc.) That's why there are different calendars -- Solar calendar, Lunar calendar; there are different clocks too -- sundial, candle clock, water clock(clepsydra), sand clock, etc.
2. As far as the time (century, year, month, week, hour, minute, second, etc.) is just a measure of the motion of the matter (Sun, Moon, water, sand, Earth's rotation, etc.), such thing as "Time machine" or "Time travel" is just impossible, because you can't travel in a measure.
 The past is something that happened, i.e. it's gone, it's already non-existing. The future is something that may happen (or not), i.e. it's something non-existing, too. The only existing one is the present. And you can't travel from the present to the past or from the present to the future, because you just can't travel from something existing to something non-existing. It is the same about real traveling -- you may travel from Greece to England, because England exists, but you can't travel from Greece to Neverland, because Neverland does not exist (it is a fictional place!)...
 

So, just forget about Time travel, Time machine, etc. They're all fictional and therefore -- impossible.

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Temporal paradox
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2014, 02:48:28 AM »

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Time is immaterial
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2014, 02:15:46 AM »

Time is immaterial

  In a word: time is immaterial.
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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2014, 02:23:08 AM »

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And I wonder if the temperature causes time dilation
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2014, 09:57:17 PM »

There is no time travel and time machine,

because the "time" is just a human fabrication

 What is this "Time travel"? Well, Time travel is just a concept of moving between different points in time (for example from 2014 to 3478 or to 1738 and so on) in a manner analogous to moving between different points in space (for example from China to Canada or to Indonesia and so on). ;D And what is this "Time machine"? This is the theoretical invention, which some believe will be able to "transport" you from "one time" to "another time".  ;D ;D
 Now let me tell you why all these "things" are just impossible:
1. There is no such thing as physical/material/substantial time. The time is ONLY a measure. It measures the motion of the things (for instance - the motion of the Sun, the motion of the Moon, the motion of the sand, etc.) That's why there are different calendars -- Solar calendar, Lunar calendar; there are different clocks too -- sundial, candle clock, water clock(clepsydra), sand clock, etc.
2. As far as the time (century, year, month, week, hour, minute, second, etc.) is just a measure of the motion of the matter (Sun, Moon, water, sand, Earth's rotation, etc.), such thing as "Time machine" or "Time travel" is just impossible, because you can't travel in a measure.
 The past is something that happened, i.e. it's gone, it's already non-existing. The future is something that may happen (or not), i.e. it's something non-existing, too. The only existing one is the present. And you can't travel from the present to the past or from the present to the future, because you just can't travel from something existing to something non-existing. It is the same about real traveling -- you may travel from Greece to England, because England exists, but you can't travel from Greece to Neverland, because Neverland does not exist (it is a fictional place!)...
 

So, just forget about Time travel, Time machine, etc. They're all fictional and therefore -- impossible.

  I'd like to add: this days I wonder if the temperature may cause time dilation?
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Seems I am right that the temperature causes time dilation
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2014, 12:57:52 AM »

There is no time travel and time machine,

because the "time" is just a human fabrication

 What is this "Time travel"? Well, Time travel is just a concept of moving between different points in time (for example from 2014 to 3478 or to 1738 and so on) in a manner analogous to moving between different points in space (for example from China to Canada or to Indonesia and so on). ;D And what is this "Time machine"? This is the theoretical invention, which some believe will be able to "transport" you from "one time" to "another time".  ;D ;D
 Now let me tell you why all these "things" are just impossible:
1. There is no such thing as physical/material/substantial time. The time is ONLY a measure. It measures the motion of the things (for instance - the motion of the Sun, the motion of the Moon, the motion of the sand, etc.) That's why there are different calendars -- Solar calendar, Lunar calendar; there are different clocks too -- sundial, candle clock, water clock(clepsydra), sand clock, etc.
2. As far as the time (century, year, month, week, hour, minute, second, etc.) is just a measure of the motion of the matter (Sun, Moon, water, sand, Earth's rotation, etc.), such thing as "Time machine" or "Time travel" is just impossible, because you can't travel in a measure.
 The past is something that happened, i.e. it's gone, it's already non-existing. The future is something that may happen (or not), i.e. it's something non-existing, too. The only existing one is the present. And you can't travel from the present to the past or from the present to the future, because you just can't travel from something existing to something non-existing. It is the same about real traveling -- you may travel from Greece to England, because England exists, but you can't travel from Greece to Neverland, because Neverland does not exist (it is a fictional place!)...
 

So, just forget about Time travel, Time machine, etc. They're all fictional and therefore -- impossible.

  I'd like to add: this days I wonder if the temperature may cause time dilation?
Well, seems that I'm right about it. Temperature causes time dilation. More about it: http://philosophychatforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=83&p=268675#p268675
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And my opinion about the "Block model universe"
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2014, 12:14:21 AM »
   

My opinion about the so called "Block model universe"


Block Model Universe= absolute FATALISM(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatalism). It's a wrong model. If it's really so, then everything already happened and we have no free will(http://www.britannica.com/topic-browse/Philosophy/Free-Will). We can, for example, just stay, sleep and enjoy the life (non-stop party! ;D ;D 8)); no need to work, because everything happened already and no matter what you do, there is no difference, so we just leave our jobs and duties, go out, spend whatever we want and... we will get exactly the same result in the end (because it's "blocked" somewhere) :D So good, to be true, isn't it?! LOL, ROFL, etc.!
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Re: Time travel, time machine -- just impossible
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2014, 12:04:00 AM »
  More about why there is no time travel. Yes, I mentioned it too, recently, but let's type more about it. Some people imagine it (time travel) like multiverse -- for example one past (past universe/past world) at 12:00, another one in 12:01... and why not other ones ("pasts") in every second :D:D... A lot of modern myths... and a lot of naive people to believe in these myths. About the so called "travel to the future" (in very high speed or near a black hole or, as I suppose, in different temperature, if one can survive) -- it's also NOT a time travel -- the certain person will age slowly (i.e. the motion will be different in him and around him than the one on Earth or in another place that moves relatively slower), but when he or she comes back he/she will find just an older Earth, but WITHOUT HIM, i.e. it is the same Earth, not another time/world/universe where he will meet his/her future self. The same as if he/she was frozen for some period. He/She stays in the same universe and he/she wakes up(unfrozen) in the same, but just much older than him universe or Earth. No time travel and no time at all. Time is just a human measure. This is my point of view now.
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Re: Time travel, time machine -- just impossible
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2016, 01:55:39 AM »
A Russian woman thinks alike. I read her opinions in youtube.com/watch?v=8SHvLZx4cb8. Take a look:
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Re: Time travel, time machine -- just impossible
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