[Aquonut]

Hey guys! As you all know I am working out + going on a healthy diet these days(yeah the intake of calories these days is only 700-800 cal lol), but what is on my mind now is, what if I get called as 'having a good body, but, having an average face'? Idk how to avoid being said as that except doing plastic surgeries.

While for a man, yeah body matters way more than face, unless your face is really too ugly, but imo having a good body while having just an average face is still not enough. Not being perfectism to myself but just thinking it's kinda a 'shame' to be called as that.

[PageRank]

You first get rid of those fatty cheeks. Then you will look better.

[MSL]

 First, if you save this money and use them to get annual profit of mote than 7.5% in some of the local branches, you will be so rich that most of the females will see you as an attractive person just because of your money and good body.
 Second, as I explained many times, gymmaxx helps you to have better face too: better skin, less fat. And, if you jaw-maxx, you'll be already handsome.

[Alexa]

People with worse faces got girls just because they invest money right (not spending for surgeons) and because they're building good bodies and styles.

But you again search for the easy, fast and 🪄 magic stick results. Why? Lazy to work out a bit longer and to build a natural yourself?

[Ethnicel]

Hey, keep in mind that some of these docs may ruin your face forever. They all speak how pro are they and how you should trust but geez... You man, are falling for easy solutions and the way to hell is paved with them. Do you know that if once you fall for a surgery to correct, let's say, your lips, than they will (or you will) make you think you should correct your nose too, then your forehead and everything else till the day when you spend your last penny.

Don't be ridiculous! Bro! You still didn't lose your face fat, you still didn't build up your body, you still didn't try jaw-maxxing and you're still not pop-fashion-maxxed but you already think about plastic surgeries. Sounds like some will lacking lazy Korean chick who instead to hit the gym, to reduce the trash food, to exercise her face bones and stuff, she just spends her last wons for those clinics... Be a better than this, geez...

[SEO]

while having just an average face is still not enough.

Now your face is average because it's full of fat and lacks of male hormones. After you lose the weight, after you become less "soyboy" your face will get better too. And after that if there are still females who will thing that "still not enough" then you improve more but first with soft-maxx like better hairstyles, jaw trainers and skin care.

Do you know how angry will be some girls or their parents if they find out that your face isn't real (after a surgery). For some people it's deceiving and cheating, enough reason to want a divorce.

[Aquonut]

First, if you save this money and use them to get annual profit of mote than 7.5% in some of the local branches, you will be so rich that most of the females will see you as an attractive person just because of your money and good body.
 Second, as I explained many times, gymmaxx helps you to have better face too: better skin, less fat. And, if you jaw-maxx, you'll be already handsome.

'Western' jaw is not favorred but instead disliked in China, but the rest of what you said makes a lot of sense.
What I am actually trepidated about is what if I have some problems that make my face get called average by women and can only be solved by surgeries?

[Good incel]

First the body, brocel. Because you don't want to be with a handsome face but with a pig body right? How many chicks out there will like a chubby feminine body cute man? First build your body to the best and then think if you still dislike your face.

And I feel you are a bit upset. You want to achieve it as soon as possible. But it's impossible to achieve it in just a month or two. It's like someone wants to learn psychometrics from you, and the men never learned it before. After some weeks he's coming and speaks, oh I already know what is IQ and what is IQ metrics, how do you think of my progress? 🤔 He didn't learn all his life and now wants immediately knowledge. You didn't sport at all all your life and now you are willing fast achievement... Yes, we are all horny like you but there is no "king way" for ascending.

[MSL]

About the jaw:

 1. Many Asian girls do prefer Western faces, because of the whiteness + the jaw, mostly. Otherwise, why there are are so many Asian incels who complain that "their" girls are liking Westerners?

 2. Take a VERY close look to all those CHINESE (100% considered handsome males) like Bruce Lee, Andy Lau, Jet Li, Wu Jing ARE with decent jaws. Take a good look: https://mr.baidu.com/r/1h4VBtztyW4?f=cp&u=a7f855b4a1f61015

 So, don't think that all or many females are going to like round faces, that are lacking any masculine traits like a bigger jaw, some mustache, etc.
 Do this simple experiment: find pics of 10 males that are considered handsome and compare their jaws with yours. How many of 10 looks like you (jaw wise)?

 If you're (in futire) already without face fat, with better skin and you're not dark originally, then why they will think your face is average? The only reason will be the jaw.

[Alexa]

Some of your statements are making me worry. You think the Asian women do not get wet from muscles, you think these women will feel the same aroused next to some muscle man and someone with 10 y.o. body type like yours. You also think that they are blind for the well developed testosterone jaws and they all like roundy sexless, genderless faces...

The logic falls down to "a Chad is not more likely to be in love than a roundy faced chubby muscleless nearcel!" So wrong...

To put it in other terms, if being chubby and formless is the same, then why the guys with good jaws and muscles are doing better than the fatcels, slimcels and the rest who just lack of good male body, jaw, etc?

[SEO]

I really try to understand what's behind this logic: a) the girls here doesn't care about the muscles, b) the girls also doesn't care about the jawline... and when a muscular man with a good jaw appears they like him and rate him at least 4/10 to 10/10...

OK. Let's see. You were exactly in the opposite spectrum (no muscles, almost invisible jawline) and there wasn't a girl to like you. And you were thinking it's because of your nose or another insignificant detail.  Can't you understand that: if they think your body and jawline are non-male, a nosejob is not going to impress them? You didn't fix your major problems (body, location) and you even don't think the jawline makes a male more attractive but you are focused on insignificant details like the nose (which is okay).

[MSL]

 I am trying to suggest to think from the females perspective but let's think from the males: Imagine, for a while, that you see a girl. And she thinks her nose could be better. But what you notice is that her body isn't good and she will be way sexier if she improves her body. Later, if she has a better style, jaw (yes, the females with ugly jaws are also less attractive!), personality, etc., probably you will even not going to notice her nose... but she thinks only a nose surgery and voila!...  Now, I hope we all understand what's the problem -- it's when you're ignoring the major problems and you are dealing with a minor (or maybe even fake) problem.

[Ethnicel]

Tell them you're angry and you will never play with them. Also how bad are they even to watch your face and nick name. Tell them they're useless and stuff like you did it to all of us here. Then they will never say anything to you maybe if they don't do something really rude to you.

[Aquonut]

Tell them you're angry and you will never play with them. Also how bad are they even to watch your face and nick name. Tell them they're useless and stuff like you did it to all of us here. Then they will never say anything to you maybe if they don't do something really rude to you.

Huh? So you think you are humorous lol. Well, your being humorous is really an 'epic failure'. And please don't comment anymore, I won't reply.

[Деси]

You see? You again want people not to reply you. It's their free will and free choice. We don't limit your free speech so you also can't limit ours. Do you not understand how typical tyrant psychology you got?

Ontopic, you never was in a good shape. Your first photo was good but you were slim muscleless there, after you got fat you also destroyed your pretty face. Don't you think that if when you're slim you already look good, when you got slim+muscular you will be even handsome? Don't be so stupid to have operations before you even try to build up a decent male body.