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A minor edit (I told you that this forum is good to be visible in China and we don't want to get in the Great Firewall filters and to lose our Chinese visitors), so don't use sensitive words. (Maybe you think it's a censorship but compared to Reddit here we're better and more patient, right?)  ;)

"Mao killed most people" isn't true. There were victims and wars and wrong doings but "most of the people" sounds like some low IQ capitalist propaganda for westerners who even don't remember what they learn in school.

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 Well, I'm a philosopher (Master's degree) and I learned Marxism-Leninism too. Have to say that Lenin was a good communist philosopher and he added some value to the original Marx and Engels works. About Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot -- okay, we can agree that it's already too much but to Lenin it was okay.
 I am also a person who lived during the Soviet era (our country was the closest satelite of the USSR) and we had people who visited there, pen-pals from the USSR and tourists. I ensure you that the USSR wasn't so bad as you read now in some anti-communist shallow propaganda websites or e-books. Yes, there were problems but people had security, free hospitals, free education, cheap prices, developed science and culture, amazing TV productions for young people and kids. Many people still miss this country and they're still alive so, as a young and clever man, don't blindly believe all what you read in English. (By the was I read in Russian too and I can tell you that the science and history in Russian has good sources).
 USSR wasn't good for the people during Stalin and the late Gorbachev, but during, for example, Brejnev it was one of the best countries in the world and even surpassed some of the Western developed countries in many fields (economy, science, society). Something like China -- yes, now China is not that great, but when I came here in 2004 (and to 2017) it was a good place for most of the people. Everything depends on the leaders of the country. Compare for example Trump's America and Biden's America. If you think the things dialectically (辩证法地), you will find out that it's not only static or only white-black/black-white. There are nuances (细微的差别) which make the pictures more clear when you know them. :)
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Not to interrupt but nobody's from the USA here currently. Mostly European and Chinese members.
Why does this forum not have Americans may I ask? Thought America is the genesis of incel culture so it owns the largest incel population?

Because this forum was created as an Omnilogy (everything-logy, 全学,全部知识) forum. The incel (normal incels without hate) is a recent project and we're still not popular in the USA. ;D

Here we had an American grandpa who was a wise man but a traditionalist. And one day I shared that I am a gay (I like ladyboys most) and he felt sick and left us. I think it was my fault. :(
Well, he said he's a "security freak" and maybe when found us that here are Chinese and people who live in China, he got a bit uneasy and left... or just got disappointed that here didn't meet some hot girls?  ;D Joking, of course, but everything is possible. Anyway, we miss him.
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Not to interrupt but nobody's from the USA here currently. Mostly European and Chinese members.
Why does this forum not have Americans may I ask? Thought America is the genesis of incel culture so it owns the largest incel population?
Because this forum was created as an Omnilogy (everything-logy, 全学,全部知识) forum. The incel (normal incels without hate) is a recent project and we're still not popular in the USA. ;D

Here we had an American grandpa who was a wise man but a traditionalist. And one day I shared that I am a gay (I like ladyboys most) and he felt sick and left us. I think it was my fault. :(

It's your fault, but not because you are a gay, instead, because you are condemning yourself to being a gay, and keep feeling guilty for an excessively discriminatory and feudalistic old fart!
It's your right to love girls or boys but it is not anyone else's right to judge whether it is correct to be gravitated to people of the same gender, because it is totally normal and a normal differentiation of human! They are just uneducated about the specificity of human and even for China we Genzs already have become open to homosexuality! But of course more open to lesbian than gay. It will feast my eyes when watching two beauties sloppy kissing each other and have .......................!
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Ow, man, your mother is really sort of "tiger mommy". But what... at least now she treats you more as a person. Could be worse. Don't think about the past and focus on your development. You're clever.
Can't say she is a tiger mommy of course but I don't think she really 'loves' me.
I mean she reproduced me most likely on the purpose of making usage of me as a 'human endowment insurance' or something like that.
Every Chinese parents reproduce just for that reason because of the toxicities in the Chinese culture.
I don't like the sterilization to be profitable. It is just one of the crystals of romance.
哎呦!不要这样吧。 ;D肯定也有因为爱孩子的父母。你这样说的,老外们可以觉得全部的中国人是没有”灵魂“的,机器人一样。
 What I mean is, you're a Chinese person and when you speak like this many of the foreigners will think that all of the Chinese are like biorobots who just produce kids (in fact there are racists who think exactly the same and hate Chinese very much). Just accept that there are also loving parents who really like kids (and they even don't give them pressure). I was a teacher for a long time in China, so I met hundreds of kids and parents. 是的,有些家长是你说的,可是也有好多不给孩子压力的。我教过了在黑龙江,吉林,辽宁,广东,海南。。。。。。 那里都有老虎家长,可是也有关心孩子们的,也有那些一点都不管的。Stereotyping all the Chinese isn't good.
 For example, now I asked the Polish comrade how he thinks about the females in Poland, to make a description, but I don't expect that 100% of the Polish are the same. Chinese are also people -- some are what you say, but also there are others, including child-free (丁克) people.
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Well, I'm a philosopher (Master's degree) and I learned Marxism-Leninism too. Have to say that Lenin was a good communist philosopher and he added some value to the original Marx and Engels works. About Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot -- okay, we can agree that it's already too much but to Lenin it was okay.
 I am also a person who lived during the Soviet era (our country was the closest satelite of the USSR) and we had people who visited there, pen-pals from the USSR and tourists. I ensure you that the USSR wasn't so bad as you read now in some anti-communist shallow propaganda websites or e-books. Yes, there were problems but people had security, free hospitals, free education, cheap prices, developed science and culture, amazing TV productions for young people and kids. Many people still miss this country and they're still alive so, as a young and clever man, don't blindly believe all what you read in English. (By the was I read in Russian too and I can tell you that the science and history in Russian has good sources).
 USSR wasn't good for the people during Stalin and the late Gorbachev, but during, for example, Brejnev it was one of the best countries in the world and even surpassed some of the Western developed countries in many fields (economy, science, society). Something like China -- yes, now China is not that great, but when I came here in 2004 (and to 2017) it was a good place for most of the people. Everything depends on the leaders of the country. Compare for example Trump's America and Biden's America. If you think the things dialectically (辩证法地), you will find out that it's not only static or only white-black/black-white. There are nuances (细微的差别) which make the pictures more clear when you know them. :)
I forgot to make myself clear that I was not negating the accomplishments of Stalin, for example his sucess in the WWII, the improvements of Soviet, etc., but he indeed demonized Socialism to warrant himself to be a dictator.
As for Lenin, yeah I indeed did not read his works but he was escorted back to RE during the WWI by Germany and who would escort a real intelligence back to the opponent country if he would really do good to it? But of course at least he was not a dictator and indeed revoluntionized the whole country, and improved people's life qualities, so I think maybe that was because Germany did not believe socialism and thought it would only become a disaster to any country for some reasons but eventually everything proved they were wrong, until Stalin achieved the sovereignty.(Lenin already recognized Stalin as a potiential bad leader but his power was already able to subvert Lenin's government).

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 Seems most of the US incels are blackpilled so we can't expect to be here where the metapill theory is respected.
 The blackpillers just want to do nothing, to hate the women, to search excuses not to maxx... and they just tend to self-pity and ldar ("lay down and rot"). But, of course, it'll be fun if some of them come here and give it a try.
 
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Ow, man, your mother is really sort of "tiger mommy". But what... at least now she treats you more as a person. Could be worse. Don't think about the past and focus on your development. You're clever.
Can't say she is a tiger mommy of course but I don't think she really 'loves' me.
I mean she reproduced me most likely on the purpose of making usage of me as a 'human endowment insurance' or something like that.
Every Chinese parents reproduce just for that reason because of the toxicities in the Chinese culture.
I don't like the sterilization to be profitable. It is just one of the crystals of romance.
哎呦!不要这样吧。 ;D肯定也有因为爱孩子的父母。你这样说的,老外们可以觉得全部的中国人是没有”灵魂“的,机器人一样。
 What I mean is, you're a Chinese person and when you speak like this many of the foreigners will think that all of the Chinese are like biorobots who just produce kids (in fact there are racists who think exactly the same and hate Chinese very much). Just accept that there are also loving parents who really like kids (and they even don't give them pressure). I was a teacher for a long time in China, so I met hundreds of kids and parents. 是的,有些家长是你说的,可是也有好多不给孩子压力的。我教过了在黑龙江,吉林,辽宁,广东,海南。。。。。。 那里都有老虎家长,可是也有关心孩子们的,也有那些一点都不管的。Stereotyping all the Chinese isn't good.
 For example, now I asked the Polish comrade how he thinks about the females in Poland, to make a description, but I don't expect that 100% of the Polish are the same. Chinese are also people -- some are what you say, but also there are others, including child-free (丁克) people.
Yeah, but very rare, in light of the Chinese culture.
I am actually practicing my 'mother-tongue thinking' of English by continuing my dialogues here because I found out that was ignored by China's English education but that was extremely indispensible in learning every language and I am practicing it to increase my comprehensive ability of English scientific publications of Psychometrics.
For now I can understand basically entirely, except some memorizations of properties and formulae of Psychometics.
To digress from politlca and societal discursions, as though autistic I am, I have a best female friend and also the best friend named 马嘉玲. We are really having intimate friendship with each other and she is encouraging me all the time and sharing the beauties of her life to me and so am I. She has good stature and face. But the only thing that makes her 'imperfect', but she is not guilty because it's her own right, is that she does not like chatting with others on phone so we have not much time to chat. I wish she could become more active online.

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I do agree that discrimination is a bad thing and let the gays be free if they don't bother the heterosexual people.
But I did another minor edit -- don't use those sexual words because it's against the Google rules (and we may lose our only income, if Google ban us for being too 性爱-explicit).  ;D ;D ;D

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Hi, LibGen! How are you doing?

Yes, I am the old, bald, poor incel who gave the opinion to that good currycel bro! :) I really think you're going to ascend because you're looking good, you can learn well and you may add good muscle mass to your body.
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Enlighten3d, I am glad to see a person with balanced and reasonable, objective thinking when it comes to the own country! I mean, I don't like those nationalists who will say "Everything is perfect!" or those never satisfied who will say "Everything sucks in my land!" Good to see a man who can analyze well. 8)

Are the majority of Polish females picky when it comes to looks? ("Chad only!" attitudes or something?) Are there many gold-diggers ("Beta-buxx" oriented?) What's your opinion? (I am asking because seems like you're giving objective info about it.) I know only one Polish woman and she is intelligent (knows some history and politics, also reads the news and speaks well English) but we don't chat about love topics and I even don't know what's her male ideal, so asking you to describe a "present picture" of the inceldom and females in Poland (if you want even start a new topic). :)

There are many picky, but at the same time men are so dumb simps that fuel it a lot. I'll say half are normal, half are toxic. Generally situation of women is better than men. And as I said, it's because dumb men will do everything to get woman, they don't understand it's bilateral relationship. So women become picky when men are doing everything for them. On the other side, they demand women to follow some stupid standards of look, many men want stupid doll instead of intelligent girlfriend. Of course not everyone is the same, I describe only part of society, that stupid part.

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But the only thing that makes her 'imperfect', but she is not guilty because it's her own right, is that she does not like chatting with others on phone so we have not much time to chat. I wish she could become more active online.

Whaaat! Imo it makes her perfect xD I also don't like chatting with people I know in reality. Lol just meet with her more often, maybe she is afraid of censorship or have controversial views/something to hide.

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But the only thing that makes her 'imperfect', but she is not guilty because it's her own right, is that she does not like chatting with others on phone so we have not much time to chat. I wish she could become more active online.

Whaaat! Imo it makes her perfect xD I also don't like chatting with people I know in reality. Lol just meet with her more often, maybe she is afraid of censorship or have controversial views/something to hide.
We never met offline, but we posted our selfies to each other. She said I was 'cute', but not 'sexy'. She just means I am 'lovely'.

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"Yeah, but very rare, in light of the Chinese culture."
 
 We haven't exact sociological data to speak in %, but you see everyday (especially in the not so developed areas) Chinese who are doing hard or simple jobs like: construction workers, cleaners, KTV girls and so on. All of them (or the majority) are born in families where the parents doesn't want (or couldn't) press them to be what the successful guys like you are now. 我的意思是在中国这么多工人,保洁,”小姐“,等,人不少。他们都是父母不给了压力的孩子们。没有你那么多成功的,有教育的人。所以我的意思是,中国的人口,大多数,没有这么多”老虎“父母的人们。比如,1个教授:5老师:10个工人:100个保洁:1000小姐。。。。。。 Maybe most of the parents in Shanghai or in Beijing are what you said, but these aren't the majority of Chinese society. All around the world the nerdy schoolboys and schoolgirls with strict parents are a minority. (The majority of the society is full of not well educated and semi-educated people. Maybe there are only 5-10 countries with mainly educated population, but usually the well-educated and intelligent ones are not more than 20% of the whole population).
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 Well, good luck with 马嘉玲. I also have a favorite one, named 龙君红, but we even can't chat because her parents are sort of xenophobic and maybe they think that I am just one of the "foreign trash", despite of my efforts to be a great man: no smoking, no hard alcohol, graduated in Philosophy, Master's degree, also got TEFL, yoga certificate, step aerobics certificate and self-defense certificate, speaking 5 foreign languages, doing sports everyday, learning a lot everyday... once you're labeled like “老外不好” or something else, no matter how hard you're trying you're never welcome. But it's okay, I really hope she's doing well and being happy!
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She said I was 'cute', but not 'sexy'.

 You see? A rare honest and frank girl. If you was a muscle guy (in Chinese -- 肌肉男), she will say that you're at least a bit sexy. Think what she may say to this man: .
 Even very ugly males, when they're having muscles, may add some sexy-ness to their looks. (Only those girls who like 娘, feminine ones, will not notice a good, muscular, shredded body). As a Chinese man said: "If you want to be attractive, you should be one of these: handsome, rich or with 6 packs ( well-developed abdominal muscles)."  8)
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