[Zhang Jie]

Depression can go away.
Just look for the things in life that make you happy.

Huhh... yeah I know, but, the things that make me happy are not unachievable and unachieved, and the things that can't make me happy are achieved intrinsically.

 If you wish, share concretely what bothers you so much. Because I see Chinese in much worse conditions (for example the workers and soldiers in Xinjiang or those in Inner Mongolia) who stay there in subzero temperatures, deal with diseases, storms and so on... and still, most of them feel okay and some are even happy. You don't need to suffer in some cold place, don't need to fight with Indian army (like the ones in Tibet recently), don't need to work hard job (like all those in the mines, on the field and the construction workers)... For many people your worries are like "first world problem" (because being in Shanghai and in a private university is already one of the top worldwide).
 You're also much better than the poor foreigners in China (like me) because you have legal rights to work almost any job you want and we, the non-native speakers, after the 2017 law that limited us to be at least English teachers,... we were left almost without any chance to find a legal job (yes, if we're in Taiwan, Macao or Japan, we can work even as cleaners, waiters and so on but in China we can't. No foreign cleaners, no foreign bus drivers, no foreign postmen... ) Now I only survive here because I had a few private students (300 yuan per week), I collect empty bottles and cans on the streets and sell them (4 yuan per week) and I have some minor online earnings (a euro or two per week). Can you imagine what hell of life is it?
 If I can change (exchange) myself, I will prefer to be you, not me, when it comes being in China.

So according to all of your narrations of posts, you are living in China now on the private tutoring, collecting the trashes, and the online earnings, as a native American?
It sounds terrible that China welcomes the foreigners like this, and I don't even know that.
I am feeling sorry for you and since you are a foreginer you should make livings in taiwan hk or other asian countries, instead of China. China is screwing many people up psychiatrically by its alienately horrendous involutions, clearly and unflexibly differentiated social-economic stratums, desperates concerning the prospectives of life, and joblessnesses, etc.. So in all senses China is now a tremendous cesspool and you should seek for better lives by moving to other countries. Again, very sorry for what you are experiencing in China now, ad infinito!
I still don't get why you think China is good, except its safety. You shoulda migrated into the Nordic. If I were you I would never definitely consider migrating into China as a reasonable option.

[Zhang Jie]

I see.
 I wonder (if it's not too private), how does your mother think of you now, after you achieve more in your life? Does she praise you more (or at least stopped to criticize you)? Or she remains the same "never satisfied mother" with non-stop "I want more! It's nothing!"?

She says I am the best in my 'family tree' except there is one another girl who graduated into a uni, and in addition to my motivation to move to USA to get higher scholastic degrees so in her perspective I am 'successful' and I remember for once when we were video-chatting her eyes were filled with the tears out of a sense of pride for me. That happened in my 2020 winter vacation.
But based upon the aforementioned thing, rather than never getting satisfied, she is more likely to lemme know I should keep improving, instead of becoming proud of myself thus stopping evolving.
I also learned Japanese, French, German, Spanish, Korean and Vietnamese before, by an online language learning web, but I forgot almost all things about them since I was learning just for fun, except French because I wanted to migrate into Canada and if you are a good French speaker you will have very big priviledges there, particularly in Quebec.

[Incel]

Not to interrupt but nobody's from the USA here currently. Mostly European and Chinese members.

[Good incel]

No Americans here. Only one old man who was active long time ago and posted many interesting materials.

[Enlighten3d]

Poland is not that bad when it comes to healthcare and economic support comparing to USA and China. We are between them and civilized Europe, not very bad, not good, yet our government drowns the country so it's getting worse now.

[Zhang Jie]

Poland is not that bad when it comes to healthcare and economic support comparing to USA and China. We are between them and civilized Europe, not very bad, not good, yet our government drowns the country so it's getting worse now.

Don't know about Poland and I don't need to since it's off the table for my migration.
USA is the best resort if you pursue Psychometric educations.
Now I am practicing English on the Internet and learning new words every day.
Hope one day I can understand English scientific materials like a breeze lol.

[Zhang Jie]

Not to interrupt but nobody's from the USA here currently. Mostly European and Chinese members.

Why does this forum not have Americans may I ask? Thought America is the genesis of incel culture so it owns the largest incel population?

[MSL]

So according to all of your narrations of posts, you are living in China now on the private tutoring, collecting the trashes, and the online earnings, as a native American?

  After I said

I am from Europe, never been to USA, living in China since 2004.

I am a "native American"?  Focus, my friend! If I was a native English speaker, the 2017 law that forbids/limits the non-native English speakers to teach English in China couldn't affect me! The US citizens in China are still okay and can find jobs easily.
 Also, there is this attitude in China -- many Chinese do hate USA but at the same time do admire the USA.  Something very ambivalent! There are also those Chinese who're treating you well until they think you're from the USA. Once they understand you're not from the US but from a small, poor European country, they're losing interest. 

It sounds terrible that China welcomes the foreigners like this, and I don't even know that.

During the Hu Jintao's period China was very, very friendly and international. Later, China became more xenophobic and now for the foreigners (especially the poor ones and the non-native English speakers) the situation is not easy.

I am feeling sorry for you and since you are a foreginer you should make livings in taiwan hk or other asian countries, instead of China.

I chose China because I am a socialist and I hoped here I can live a real socialistic life (like the one I lived in Bulgaria till 1989) but later I saw that I am wrong -- here the situation becomes more feudal.

 

China is screwing many people up psychiatrically by its alienately horrendous involutions, clearly and unflexibly differentiated social-economic stratums, desperates concerning the prospectives of life, and joblessnesses, etc.. So in all senses China is now a tremendous cesspool and you should seek for better lives by moving to other countries. Again, very sorry for what you are experiencing in China now, ad infinito!

Well, it's still okay for the rich Chinese and the rich foreigners. But, I do agree, that there is regress recently due to the emperorization.

I still don't get why you think China is good, except its safety.

 I like Chinese culture and concretely the Chinese food, Chinese music, Chinese martial arts and I like the looks of the Chinese people (I am not a racist but to me the average yellow woman looks prettier than the average white woman or average black woman)... And as I said, I believe that China will build the socialism with Chinese characteristics but I was wrong.

You shoulda migrated into the Nordic.

There I could be a dish washer or cleaner. These rich, tall, white Europeans (Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finland,...) don't feel people like me from South-East Europe are very precious; many of them think of us as poor, "black", second-hand people. In China -- most of the Chinese will see me as a real white man and here I was at least a teacher. Do you understand the different level?
 Also, I don't understand their languages but I do speak Chinese well; I don't like the cold, dark (long nights), depressing (high rate of suicides) north European nature... and I even don't think that most of the people are pretty/handsome there. So, why I have to go to a place where I like nothing and where nobody will like me? 
 Everyone shoud choose wisely where to live and where he/she looks better, being treated better, can find better job and feels better. 北欧就不适合我，对我来说最好的是东亚，东南亚。这边我又高，又人家会喜欢我，又不会有人说我的国籍是差的（当然他们更爱美国人，可是还没有北欧的和西欧的歧视），又（以前）会当外语老师。还有，我原来是社会主义的，中国粉丝的人。所以选了这边，可是最近越来越皇帝化了，封建化了，所以如果到三月份还是老样子的，就要润。

[MSL]

Enlighten3d, I am glad to see a person with balanced and reasonable, objective thinking when it comes to the own country! I mean, I don't like those nationalists who will say "Everything is perfect!" or those never satisfied who will say "Everything sucks in my land!" Good to see a man who can analyze well.

Are the majority of Polish females picky when it comes to looks? ("Chad only!" attitudes or something?) Are there many gold-diggers ("Beta-buxx" oriented?) What's your opinion? (I am asking because seems like you're giving objective info about it.) I know only one Polish woman and she is intelligent (knows some history and politics, also reads the news and speaks well English) but we don't chat about love topics and I even don't know what's her male ideal, so asking you to describe a "present picture" of the inceldom and females in Poland (if you want even start a new topic).

[Gay]

Ow, man, your mother is really sort of "tiger mommy". But what... at least now she treats you more as a person. Could be worse. Don't think about the past and focus on your development. You're clever.

[Gay]

Yeah, the Polish communist incel is also a clever man. It's a great luck to gather with intelligent guys like you. You 2 proved that not every incel is some dumb and lost head. :)

[Zhang Jie]

So according to all of your narrations of posts, you are living in China now on the private tutoring, collecting the trashes, and the online earnings, as a native American?

  After I said

I am from Europe, never been to USA, living in China since 2004.

I am a "native American"?  Focus, my friend! If I was a native English speaker, the 2017 law that forbids/limits the non-native English speakers to teach English in China couldn't affect me! The US citizens in China are still okay and can find jobs easily.
 Also, there is this attitude in China -- many Chinese do hate USA but at the same time do admire the USA.  Something very ambivalent! There are also those Chinese who're treating you well until they think you're from the USA. Once they understand you're not from the US but from a small, poor European country, they're losing interest. 

It sounds terrible that China welcomes the foreigners like this, and I don't even know that.

During the Hu Jintao's period China was very, very friendly and international. Later, China became more xenophobic and now for the foreigners (especially the poor ones and the non-native English speakers) the situation is not easy.

I am feeling sorry for you and since you are a foreginer you should make livings in taiwan hk or other asian countries, instead of China.

I chose China because I am a socialist and I hoped here I can live a real socialistic life (like the one I lived in Bulgaria till 1989) but later I saw that I am wrong -- here the situation becomes more feudal.

 

China is screwing many people up psychiatrically by its alienately horrendous involutions, clearly and unflexibly differentiated social-economic stratums, desperates concerning the prospectives of life, and joblessnesses, etc.. So in all senses China is now a tremendous cesspool and you should seek for better lives by moving to other countries. Again, very sorry for what you are experiencing in China now, ad infinito!

Well, it's still okay for the rich Chinese and the rich foreigners. But, I do agree, that there is regress recently due to the emperorization.

I still don't get why you think China is good, except its safety.

 I like Chinese culture and concretely the Chinese food, Chinese music, Chinese martial arts and I like the looks of the Chinese people (I am not a racist but to me the average yellow woman looks prettier than the average white woman or average black woman)... And as I said, I believe that China will build the socialism with Chinese characteristics but I was wrong.

You shoulda migrated into the Nordic.

There I could be a dish washer or cleaner. These rich, tall, white Europeans (Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finland,...) don't feel people like me from South-East Europe are very precious; many of them think of us as poor, "black", second-hand people. In China -- most of the Chinese will see me as a real white man and here I was at least a teacher. Do you understand the different level?
 Also, I don't understand their languages but I do speak Chinese well; I don't like the cold, dark (long nights), depressing (high rate of suicides) north European nature... and I even don't think that most of the people are pretty/handsome there. So, why I have to go to a place where I like nothing and where nobody will like me? 
 Everyone shoud choose wisely where to live and where he/she looks better, being treated better, can find better job and feels better. 北欧就不适合我，对我来说最好的是东亚，东南亚。这边我又高，又人家会喜欢我，又不会有人说我的国籍是差的（当然他们更爱美国人，可是还没有北欧的和西欧的歧视），又（以前）会当外语老师。还有，我原来是社会主义的，中国粉丝的人。所以选了这边，可是最近越来越皇帝化了，封建化了，所以如果到三月份还是老样子的，就要润。

No wonder your Chinese is so good because you've been in China for so long lol!
But the most important:
China is not a true socialism country! It just sugarcoats its bureaucracy, feudalism, centralism, etc. by its rhetorics concerning how good our institute is, how bad USA/Japan is, how bad Taiwan is, how wonderful our party is, etc., to inure Chineses to its brutal and foolish policies and to oblige them to conform to the ............ During Mao's time there were countless, like 40,000,000——50,000,000 died from Mao's nonhuman policies. Not long before we were suffering from the brutal Zero Covid-19 policies and many students killed themselves, many old people died from the lack of enough treatments, or the infections from the exposures to the covid-19 patients when waiting in queue to get nucleric examinations, etc..
It is now just a country as horrible as Soviet. The original socialism had already been demonized by Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot, and Mao, the ULTIME PARAMOUNT LEADER of China, killed the most people.
Btw, if I could soldier on until I become a professor, I would be bent on publishing my own researches and stuffs and teaching my uni students! But, there is a prerequisite:I can hold on until then!

[Zhang Jie]

Ow, man, your mother is really sort of "tiger mommy". But what... at least now she treats you more as a person. Could be worse. Don't think about the past and focus on your development. You're clever.

Can't say she is a tiger mommy of course but I don't think she really 'loves' me.
I mean she reproduced me most likely on the purpose of making usage of me as a 'human endowment insurance' or something like that.
Every Chinese parents reproduce just for that reason because of the toxicities in the Chinese culture.
I don't like the sterilization to be profitable. It is just one of the crystals of romance.

[Gay]

Not to interrupt but nobody's from the USA here currently. Mostly European and Chinese members.

Why does this forum not have Americans may I ask? Thought America is the genesis of incel culture so it owns the largest incel population?

Because this forum was created as an Omnilogy (everything-logy, 全学，全部知识) forum. The incel (normal incels without hate) is a recent project and we're still not popular in the USA.

Here we had an American grandpa who was a wise man but a traditionalist. And one day I shared that I am a gay (I like ladyboys most) and he felt sick and left us. I think it was my fault.

[Zhang Jie]

Yeah, the Polish communist incel is also a clever man. It's a great luck to gather with intelligent guys like you. You 2 proved that not every incel is some dumb and lost head.

All of the incels are incarcerating themselves in their own 'matrixes' in which if you can't tap with girls you are subhuman or something like that or maybe they just need to improve their lacks of self-efficacy. I am one of the latter but def not one of the former because I never perceive relationship as one of the necessities of life and I think everyone necessitates it because it is indeed highly correlated with many good attributes of one person thus your attainment of it can corroborate you really have them and the magnitudes of those good attributes.
For me I will of course not improve myself to satisfy random girls. I don't want to get into the troubles as the effects of various treadmills, nourishing babies, infinite arguments, tackling girls' tampers, paranoias about whether there is any chances that they will cheat on me(again I am not saying 100% of course), etc.. I just don't want to make my life emasuclating.