[MSL]

 Well, it depends on the definition of "Chad". If a Chad means tall for sure, then of course a truecel (true incel) can't become a Chad. But becoming a gymcel (starting to do some kind of fitness or bodybuilding) will help him to improve himself. You see, it's just like an ordinary job. With an ordinary salary you can't become a billionaire, but you'll be not totally poor, homeless, etc. At least better than nothing. Atleastism, you know.
 And don't forget that it's not necessary to become exactly a Chad. Many of the less attractive males (for example most of the so-called "normies", i. e. the average majority of the male population) are having girl-friends and wives. So even becoming a Norman (not a Gyga Chad or a Chad) is enough in most of the cases.

[SEO]

How do you think about the popular statement "face > body"?

[Incel]

It's "face>body" or "body<face". It's science. Studies show that ppl care like 70% about the face and only 30% about the body.

[SEO]

Yes, yes, yes. It's mostly so. Just in some cases body may be more helpful. Like one is pretty/handsome but too fat and the other one is not that pretty/handsome but has a good body. And in this kind of case some people will choose the second one (Not that pretty/handsome + good looking body > Pretty/handsome + obese body). The obesity was just an example. There are other reasons to not have a good looking body too.

[MSL]

 Something very important that many people, including many incels, do not keep in mind. It's that the reality (the gradation) is face > body > ugly body. Notice that body > ugly body. So, it's better to be with a pretty, attractive body than to be without it. If your face isn't attractive, than AT LEAST do your body attractive. An attractive body is more necessary for the people with ugly faces than for those with pretty faces. This is the right logic. It's the same as "a rich >a poor with job >a poor jobless". If you're poor AT LEAST you should have a job (even being a working poor) than to be jobless (which usually leads to homeless; very poor). The rich person can afford not to work but the poor should try to find a job. A handsome man (Chad) may afford not to try hard to develop his body but an unattractive man (an incel) should try his best to develop a better body. (When it comes to the topic "face and body". Of course, the bodybuilding isn't the one and only good thing that a human may use to be more attractive. There are other good and useful things like learning (knowledge), earning capital (for example, money, gold, etc.), developing skills (like singing, playing a musical instrument, martial arts, chess, etc.))

[Incel]

Sure, a man who has never attempted to gymmaxx, whilst having the ability and finances to do so, is sometimes accused of being a fakecel (or better let's say it's a sort of a volcel).

Many betas (beta males) and incels (in this case called gymcels) attempt to hit up the gym to achieve a better physique, to "feel better about themselves" and to become more attractive to women, hoping to ascend. So, a gymcel is an incel who copes by thinking that he’ll turn into a Chad if he goes to the gym and works hard. While gaining muscle does increase your chances with women online an enormous amount in highly populated areas, many incels believe this doesn't apply outside online dating if you have a short stature, small physical frame, or less than attractive face. At the end of the day, most incels would benefit by gymcelling, especially fatcels who need to lose bodyfat to show their bone structure, or skinnycels who are just skin and bones, and could use extra muscles in their neck, shoulders and torso.

A research study in 2007 which analyzed evolutionary behavior confirmed the following:

"For both sexes, face attractiveness predicted overall attractiveness more strongly than did body attractiveness, and this difference was significant in males." /Contributions of the face and body to overall attractiveness
Authors: Marianne Peters Gillian Rhodes Leigh W. Simmons

∗
    School of Psychology, University of Western Australia, Australia

†
    Centre for Evolutionary Biology, School of Animal Biology, University of Western Australia, Australia

Received 13 April 2006, Revised 11 June 2006, Accepted 17 July 2006, Available online 30 April 2007.

MS. number: 8918
/ https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0003347207000565

[MSL]

 I'd like to add some important points here:
 1. The finances are a problem for many poor people. But it can't be an excuse not to do bodybuilding at home or in the parks, gardens, fields, etc. There are many other ways to build muscles (free ways) like push-up (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Push-up) and pull-up (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pull-up_(exercise)) for example. You don't need a gym if you really want to get fit.
 2. "a short stature, small physical frame, or less than attractive face" -- all of these with a combination of a muscular body are a better combination than those obese and/or unattractive males (like 2/10 to 4/10) who still get girlfriends out there by some reason/reasons.
 3. It's not necessary to become a "Chad" ("Chang", "Chadpreet", "Tyrone", etc.) in order to ascend. I often see these this type of males (around 7/10 to 9/10) with average females (around 2/10 to 6/10) and at the same time many average or obese and unattractive males with prettier females (like 7/10, 8/10, 9/10...) This makes me think that the body and face are not that important how many incels think and that there are sometimes more important factors like location, good luck (like the right timing), money, characters, habits and so on. So to have a better body and a better face is useful, but not universal means.
 4. And "this difference was significant in males" is okay for the male unattractive incels because it shows exactly that there is more chance for them if they develop themselves in other fields (body, money, status, knowledge, education, better locations and so on).

[Incel]

Perhaps the heaviest things we lift and carry are not our weights, but our feels.

[MSL]

 This kind of sports make you even look better (when it comes to the face) because it's makes the skin healthier (thus -- prettier, better looking) and also helps in some cases to lose body fat and to show the facial bone structure (many slim faces are perceived as better looking than their obese versions). You may browse some "obese to fit" images (https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=obese+to+fit&form=HDRSC2&first=1&tsc=ImageHoverTitle) and to see exactly the changes (the facial ones) and to realize that it's, often, useful to hit the gym for the face improvement as well. So, yes, "there is no gym for your face" but the gym for your body helps (often) to get a better face too.
 And let's say that, on average, the gym (fitness, bodybuilding and many other sports) may improve your face with 10%. The right food/diet (vitamins, minerals) is able to give you at least 5% more. The well-known showers ("Just take a shower, bro!") are going to make it cleaner, healthier, more hydratated, which add at least other 5% more. So, these things are not something that should be neglected.

[MSL]

 It's useful to know when it comes to heightcels (a.k.a. shortcels or smallcels) -- heightism. A shortcel (heightcel; smallcel) is someone whose placement on the inceldom spectrum can (at least partially) be attributed to being short.

[MSL]

Lucid dream-maxx

 Once I read about this kind of "-maxx": "Lucid dream-maxx". The lucid dreams are a type of dream where the dreamer becomes aware that he or she is dreaming. So, it's a kind of escapism, not a way to improve your chances to escape the inceldom. But it's a good thing if you can achieve it: you may have a lot of fun and satisfaction if you are able to control and/or "order" your dreams.

[MSL]

 There is a category of incels that may sound a bit strange to some people, but these incels do exist. The category is "husbandcel". The husbandcels are married but their wives do not want to make love with them, so practically they're incels (or volcels, probably, in some rare cases).

[Incel]

How do you think? Every 0.01% counts? Let's just say that there are 2 billion men (your ammount of competition as a male). Amongst those, whatever percentile you lie in, you are competing with around 20 million others. In your life you are either improving or deteriorating. So you're startiting to make the correct dietary decisions, go to the gym and work out well, engage in the work you should be doing responsibly (career, business, college, volunteering), listen to an audiobook if you're lazy/busy to read, as opposed to only listen to music or playing games. Like this, you can literally surpass thousands of others (your competition, within your percentile) in terms of your quality as a man and person. So, every 0.01% counts, isn't it? Yes or no? (It's just a theory I know from $tackThatMoney).

[MSL]

 That $tackThatMoney person is giving positive, optimistic and motivational opinion. It's much better, for many of the pessimistic incels who only think about "It's over.", "It never began.", "LDAR" (lay down and rot)/("lie down and rot"), etc.
 I'm trying to be a realist, so here is what I can comment:
 
 1. It's not so important if you surpass thousands of others or millions of others, or just 10 of others. It's important how many of others you do surpass in your social circle (more exact -- the social circle of the person you like). For example, you may surpass 104 000 000 people around the world but what if you're still number 7 (of 10) amongst the guys who are her potential future partners? Well, maybe she's not going to choose exactly number 1 (because she may feel insecure to be with such a great man or maybe because he'll think that she is not good enough for him). Let's assume that she will skip number 2 too and even number 3... but then, still, she will be with number 4 or 5. And you're the 7^th. So, you're nearly chanceless.
 Now, imagine another situation -- you're arriving in some developing place where you're a unique and attractive person in the eyes of the locals (for example just because you're a foreigner who is considered very good looking (according to the local tastes) and who is much richer, educated, skillful, etc. than the average people around). You may surpass only 100 or 90 (or less) of others in your country and only around 200 all around the world. , but what's the problem when all (or nearly all) of the local females think that you're the best they ever met? If you like enough at least one of them, then your inceldom problem is solved!
 Yes, of course, if you surpass most of the others around the world, the chance (probability) to also surpass most of the competitors around you and the female (females) you like is higher, than if you only surpass a few people in the entire world. But still, it depends, who exactly is in your (and especially, in her) social circle.
 
 2. The correct dietary decisions are important. The healthy menu is going to improve your health and even to make your body, skin, face to look a bit better. But in some cases it may be a reason some of the females to reject you. For example if you're eating normally and you want to be with a 100% vegan girl, probably she'll disagree or you both will have a lot of hard time. Or, imagine, that you like some very religious one who is forbidding you to eat something what you really like (for example pork (Islam) or beef (Hinduism), etc.) So the right, healthy flexitarian menu may be an obstacle in some cases. Anyway, don't give up and keep your healthy diet because the health is number one priority.

 3. Hitting the gym (working out) is a good thing too. And you can do it even without a real gym. For example you can make decent muscles at home if you're using some ordinary sports tools and you're doing the right exercises. Even only push-ups, squats and sit-ups may be enough, if you're doing them regularly, almost every day and you're having the right diet.
 Well, there are some females who do not like muscles but recently the percentage of these females isn't very significant, so don't worry and build up your body well.

 4. It's sad but have to keep it in mind: nowadays, in this cruel capitalistic world which is also full of wars and other problems if you're poor and especially if you're a poor male, your chances to find a partner are not great. That's why the best you can make your goal is to earn a lot of money (but legally; don't risk your life with criminal activities!), which means to try business, to search for jobs with high salaries, etc. Even a super charming male (a "Chad" or a "Brad") if has no money is losing most of the females because one part of them (let's say 40%) will just find another Chad or Brad who is richer. Some of them will even prefer to be with a "Norman" (a.k.a. "normie", i. e. an average male) who has the money, but not with a poor Chad. And other, let's say 25%, even agree to be with a moneyless Chad/Brad will be in trouble because their parents will never agree their daughters to be with a poor man.
 
 5. To be educated and knowledgeable is an important and reasonable value. The problem is that most of the people around the world are not very clever so if you're a clever person, in some cases, it may be a problem because many of the stupid females are not willing to be with a very clever man -- some of them think that they're not a match for a clever man and he should find another clever woman; others just think that being with a clever man is against them because he'll lie them or something like this; also there are women who dislike the very clever males because they're "boring", "geeks", "losers" and so on. Don't forget that category who want to control and to command their partners -- these women usually think that a very clever man is difficult to control, so they're avoiding the high IQ men.
 Still, this value is objectively a very important one and it's a must for the humankind. So, if you're able to be clever and to become cleverer, don't miss this chance! In most of the cases the clever people are able to find a way, to avoid some problem, to get a better decision and so on. Also being clever is a sort of a little compensation if you're not rich ("poor and stupid" is a terrible combination indeed).
 That's all. So, in a word, I do like this theory but I just wanted to add that it's not a 100% working. Yes, 0.01% counts but not every time. Sometimes even 0.000001% is enough (if you're in the right place, with the right person). Sometimes you have to get at least 0.91% to become at least one of the "TOP 3 potential partners" in your favorite female's social circle.
 You see, from time to time, I'm thinking about it, theoretically, if someday I am lucky enough to be close again to my favorite, angelic Long Jun-Hong (龙君红) and she is a mature adult, if I will be able to become at least one of the "TOP 10 males she likes" in her social circle. I doubt it even now when I'm totally sure that I surpass not just "thousands of others", but 80%+ of the others around the world! (Because I'm a philosopher, a poet, a writer, a webmaster. I do not smoke, I do not' drink hard alcohol. Besides my Master's at philosophy, I've got a TEFL and some sports certificates. I'm doing regular sport activities (several). I can speak several foreign languages and I'm learning everyday more and more. I'm learning non-stop about history, psychology, logic and many others. Day by day, I'm trying to earn more money via teaching, webmastering, writing, trading..., i. e. I'm a hard-working person. I'm also comparatively kind, helpful and fair person. I do avoid unhealthy things like dirtiness (germs, viruses, etc.), radiation, pollution and so on. Trying to eat healthily. As you may see, I'm something like a modern genius or, at least, not an ordinary man. That's why I'm pretty sure that 80%+ of the rest are worse than me. And, still, I'm not optimistic that if she meet me again one day, after some years, she'll think that I'm one of the potential partners for her because some the other males in her social circle will be more attractive and more acceptable to her than me).
 So, dear incels, do your best and improve yourselves more and more, as much as you can! Just remember that it won't work in every situation but it will be generally helpful (it has the potential to work in some of the situations). In simple words, it's increasing your chances.

[Incel]

At last it's time to realize how worthy it was to spent all these years (Facing a much younger Chad soon)!

Look, I'm really serious! No jokes, no kidding, no shi*t! I'm going to face the real, real truth soon! May be... maybe!

Okay... well, let's start it normally and from the very beginning. Hi and hello, everyone! I'm comparatively new here and I'm thankful that I can meet so many brocels here (at least like readers. Hey, register if you want! I wish I could chat and discuss with more brocels here! Please!!!)! It's important for me and surely it'll give you a lot of valuable info because the situation is really a kind of "time for the truth"! No shit, no joke! I swear.

 So, here is the long story short: I was surely unlucky because I'm not just an incel, I'm a: shortcel (around 5.6 feet), a baldcel (Norwood 3~4) and a poorcel (nearly indebted, but not yet).

 But well okay, here is the point: I'm soon going to be an oldcel (i.e. I'm nearly 50!), but hey,hey, don't imagine me as a "grandpa"! I managed to look like a post-graduate or something! It's another story. And also, I did my best during the last 5 years to ascend! Bluepill or redpill? Think by yourself:


1. I was really fat as f... but I gave up the yummy food and the sodas. I lost around 89 pounds!
2. Then I improved my martial arts and started to be a real gymcel! The result was that my body became like the one I had in my 20's, and even better! (Without the f... hair, you know!)
3. I added some yoga, aerobics, self-defence and more fitness (even at home). (More gymmaxxing! Hell, yeah! )
4. I have got a Master's (humanitarian) degree, but I added 4 more online diplomas (linguistics and some sport (sports)) + I started to learn and play chess. Learned more languages and even started to trade and learn economics!
5. I never stopped to read incels' wikis and forums in order to keep enough real!
 Sorry, if I sound too #%$#%$#~, but I managed to become something like a "superhuman" (or at least a "king of the manlets"; even most of the males outside no matter how tall are they look so ugly, fat and so on, when they are next to my lean, muscular and trained body. No need to say my IQ is above theirs, in most of the cases!)
 The results?
OK, 100% honest with you, bros and brocels:
1. After my improvement all the females started to chat with me, to talk with me. Before they even didn't dare to answer me or to chat with me.
2. Some of these females made some compliments like: "Obviously you like sport!", "Oh-wow! You're so sporty!", "You look not bad, man! What do you practice?"
3. "Oh! You're great!" (When it comes to my degrees and learning or knowledge, but seems it doesn't matter to most of them)... I feel sorry about it, because I wanted the people to be more educated and knowledgeable but... alas...

 Well, don't get me wrong -- still NO girlfriend. (Well, two superobese wanted to be with me, but I refused. Sorry. Does it count? That's all. If you call me a "volcel" for it, I'll accept it and I will due you my apology! I'm just willing to be 100% honest with you, bros and brocels!)

And here comes the the hour of the truth: A nearly 30 years younger than me boy (just turned 18) who practiced only 1 year bodybulding and some MMA, is already:

1. Taller than me. (around 1 head above me.)
2. Stronger than me. (Bigger muscles, except the abdominal ones.)
3. Maybe more handsome (surely more hair and less beard.)
4. Braver (extremely brave -- inviting for sparring everyone who is available and most of the time winning!)
5. No need to say that he has at least 2000% females in his social networks who are willing to chat with him and asking him questions like "Who did you fight today?" and "Wow, how well you improved your body!" (A blackpill,...)

OK, and the top of that, the boy (I call him "the boy", because I could be his father, but I'm, obviously, I child-free, so...) would like to have a friendly fight with me. :-0 :-0 :-0 :-0 :-0 :-0 :-0 :-0
So... all I feel is insecure and that he's is 90% mogging me because he's just a natural Chad who is on steroids or something (I avoid it and maybe that's why my progress is so humble!) and who is working hard! (About the IQ, obviously I am mogging him, but who cares?!...)
The conclusion? Work hard, do your best and you'll have it better, but once comes a Chad, then it's really hard!!!

BROS and BROCELS, everything you say is welcome! Tell me what do you think and if I have to try to duel with him?! I know I may lose and I am a wise man who is not going to lose some bone because of a Chad-kid. Even I win against him, I know no female will acknowledge me, so? Let me know!!!

Respect!