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Re: Long time no Mojo. Do you miss him?
« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2016, 05:22:44 PM »
No doubt, just let's do it!

1. He said nothing lasts forever, even in internet (online). But we plan to support this forum like for ever (until we're alive and then the next generations). So Mojo's words and thoughts may stay safe here for many generations!

2. That other website is really weak and unstable probably. Its rank sucks, if I have to be frank. Then why to risk to leave Mojo's precious words (thoughts) only in there?!

3. We think of Mojo as our very precious online friend! I think he likes us, too. If someday he is really back online and if he is really back here, I think he may be happy to see that we missed him and that we had the chance to enjoy his other thoughts that he hasn't chance to post here!

4. We don't need to mention the other site and the other nickname of Mojo there, so his privacy is okay.

Just let's give it a shot!    8) :) 8)

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« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2016, 06:52:33 PM »
As far as there wasn't (and till today there isn't) any user agreement + Mojo's posts are public, I think to copy and paste them here is nothing bad. (Also, as we mentioned already, it's a way to enjoy Mojo's wisdom even when he's not online + to be sure it's in a safer place over here, because we're not sure how long may exist that other website).

About why some people left Reddit and/or Voat:

"Agree with your statement about some of us left Reddit and Voat. Reddit has gotten weird with it's rules and unspoken actionable execution of methods.

Voat is another issue all together. Between those that desire drama, the haters, the racial groups, the pedos hiding behind free speech flag, the trolls, and the downvote brigades, it's changed it's entire make up to something I no longer want to be part of.

I feel it will only be a matter of time before those are here. Given that I'm hesitant to put down roots here. I know some of the nicks here but they don't know me. I'm ok with that and make it a policy to be someone else every new site. If I post long, I will be known. Mainly because I can bring a lot to the table when it comes to contributions and original content.

For the now, the place is new. Once it becomes known, the quality will most likely drop, due to the influx of those mentioned above. So it is with a lot of skepticism I come here and may not stay."

About do we enjoy smaller communities or large ones:

"I prefer a smaller community. Large ones such as Reddit, you get drowned out on with people trying to make the most karma. Or with those who want to participate in the conversation but don't really have anything of knowledge to add. So you wind up with a lot of shit posts that do nothing to further the conversation and just take up time to filter through them. As this place grows, so too will this problem."

About Windows10:

"I've always been wary of a free lunch. For Microsoft to just give out a new OS to upgrade was one that raised eyebrows for me. No one does that without some sort of ulterior motive. Looks to me the motive was identify all a user of the OS does with their system.

Then too, I always hate an upgrade or change over. Every time it breaks some of the old programs you used to run. I like many of the programs I run and want to keep them.

Given the privacy issues with Win 10 I'm not sure I am going to remain with Windows for this newer system. I once went with Linux and may well return over this business of constant reconnections to Microsoft to blab on how you use your system. Especially when some of it has been taken out of your hands to block.

I have enough computers to air gap those I don't want phoning home. Security is a large issue with me, followed by privacy a close second. I have no intention of being an interest to those hunting terrorism as creating calamities in people's lives is just not what I am into.

But then again, these spying agencies have no business knowing what I might want to write to my mother. Trust it would not involve any public issues that they would need be concerned with."

About reading books:

"Present book is "On My Way To Paradise"."

About the trolls and problem children online:

"Hello raisin, I know you. It will dawn on you one day who I am.

The problem with the hate groups, isn't that they set up their own little places; that's all fine and dandy. But what happens next is they are not happy to remain there. Some feel the inherent need to preach the gospel to the unbelievers and spread the word. In the process, every major sub gets infected. You can't just block the sub involved as that doesn't work."

"Voat's issue with the witch hunt is they never put together that mods were who drove new content to show up. Running them off, also ran off the main contributors of original content. When they became successful at demanding mod control not many remain who want to deal with the hassle of being a mod unless it is a position only type presence that does nothing.

I don't like overbearing mods but I hate witch hunts even worse. That's pretty much what Voat became."

"Until this unfolds into what it will be, I'll not be putting a lot of effort into contributions. If ... turns into another Voat, I'll not be here long afterwards. It's just not my kind of place."

"Two of the more famous trolls used TOR/VPN. Multiple accounts, upwards of in the hundreds, so banning doesn't work. Basically they wallpapered any sub, not a sub to deal with their topic. What makes this a problem is you can't just ban VPNs without taking a lot of other folks with it. I would be one as I use a VPN for privacy issues. I care not to create problems.

At the time I made the post, I was seeing my own email in the settings page. I did not stop to think it might only be me that sees my own info. But having years of experience on the net, it was not unheard of to have bots that skimmed emails from personal settings so yes, it's still a bit of a concern.

Not too much of a racist I'm afraid. Funny that, I grew up in such a household where being the Grand Dragon would have been a mark of pride. Where as a kid I was pointed to an ancient oak tree in the town with the proud explanation that was where the last nigger was hung.

However, along came the military. A place where there is only one color; olive drab. When a hand reaches down to pull you out of the shit, you don't question what color it is. You are grateful for not being left there, no matter the personal risk that came to perform such heroism. Such was a life altering experience for me. I take you as you come and present yourself. Matters not your race but rather how you present yourself as being."

"An interesting explanation. Thank you for that."

"Sorry I don't have much in the line of chat accounts. Certainly not one at Github. I'm one of those weird people that don't like to leave so many bread crumbs behind on the internet. Maybe I can't stop it all but I can sure put a dent in it.

If you won't look out for your security, all the rest will be happy to take advantage of it."

Just saying 'Hi!':

"Hello Ghost. Seems right to come along and say hi after you've done so in mine."

About announcements:

"Such is needed to keep the community informed of changes. An email setup just doesn't work when the community starts to number in the 100,000ⁿᵈˢ. Just too much traffic, often not of sufficient value to make it work."

About "Scientist at IdeaFestival explains how science is failing us":

"This just sounds like clickbait but I'll post it anyway.

Here's the thing. Nothing has explained the universe since the days of the caveman. Science has what has come the closest to helping us grasp at answers. The local witch doctor sure didn't have them.

No one said we understood everything about all. To make such a claim would be akin to claiming godhood. But you can see where we are making headway in things that were/are a mystery to us. Back before computers started aiding us, it was often that science discoveries took a generation to filter down into text books for learning the latest greatest which wasn't by then new or great.

But computers have helped a lot because one of the big hitters in advancing knowledge is building on the past work of others. The task is much too large for a single person or even a single generation. During the era of books being the sole repository of knowledge, often finding that past work was a big issue. Might take you 20 years to hear of another work which dovetailed into yours and to hunt down the source.

Today with the internet, that time factor has been cut drastically. One of the main barriers now is middle men trying to make a buck on university funded knowledge."

About the emails:

"Had I know this at the start I would not have provided an email address. The only reason you would have one is for retrieving a password to an account."

About DMCA:

"It is obvious that today's DMCA's are broken. They are being used more for censorship than for the purpose designed of removing copyrighted works.

The trouble is that the major entertainment industries got what they wished which was a way to remove copyrighted works from the internet but at the same time, have no clause for false claims.

I suspect that many are using this as a method to attempt to make Google toe the line in what they wish removed from search engines by blanketing Google with take down notices. Since Google appears to be keeping up, the next suspected actionable item is to use it to point to the massive toll of attempts to take items down and claim it is not workable unless government steps in, thereby removing the cost of doing it and shoving it off on the taxpayer.

Comcast is another issue. Comcast takes out the copyright troll demands from 6 strikes. So the end user never gets the demand to pay money. Naturally this doesn't sit well with the copyright trolls, existing only to extort money. In this I suspec that torrentfreak is correct that the trolls are attempting to set up a prior action as the reason to justify court actions, already going through the motions."

"Actually, these are DMCA notices which deal with copyright infringement. Patent trolls are a horse of a different color often running into millions of dollars, just for the legal defenses when fought. Patent trolls deal with infringement on patents.

The typical move of a patent troll is to notice the infringement of a patent and then not do anything until the company gets large enough to afford the bill or until they can find more patents infringed on. Usually most patent trolls have a lot of weak patents of questionable value and will price their demand just below the cost of fighting it in court. Some of the more recent news is that the government and businesses that are being hit with this are starting to claim the total amount being extorted nationally. While I haven't seen any figures of this total amount, consider the modern cell phone has at least 125 patents covering various things from the attempt of Apple to patent the thumb slidelock clasp to rounded corners in design to patents on display, communications, battery types, button design as well as function, communication protocols, to mention a few.

The most favored time a patent troll strikes is during a preparation to become registered to be on the stock market. Takes a lot of money and a lot of employee time to set up an IPO. This is the idea time when patent trolls hit. It's near considered a rite of passage today on the path to an IPO."

About NSFW:

"The start is already here. Supposedly it will be young girls fully clothed but suggestive.

...nnteens"

About alphabetical order of subs:

"I too agree with your suggestion. ... is still new, the mess will continue to get more scrambled as time goes on.

It's great to hear that ... has agreed this needs addressed."

About how many users:

"No need to count actually; at least not yet. Near as I can tell, ... has only been up three days. Not even enough time to get known."

About "Hamburg to seize [empty] commercial property to house migrants":

"Europe made a mistake while setting up laws to deal with immigration. They didn't properly address it. No one thinking that mass migration from other countries would happen. Those in this migration move are coming in by the 100,000ⁿᵈˢ.

There will be another issue that is just beginning to show up. Typically migrants will cluster with what they know. Which means that there will be areas that are strictly Muslim in nature. The problem isn't that they are Muslim; the problem is that there are so many of them that they will over whelm the government's ability to fund and take care of them.

The other issue is that they are Muslim with their own culture and they will attempt to set that up where ever they live as a group. This will mean unofficial attempts to set up Shira laws and to try and force the national populace within their areas to conform to their way of living. IE, the lack of burkas, not being escorted by a man in public, or even driving as a woman. This will most certainly clash with the 1ˢᵗ world nations' ideas of what is right and proper."

About "Sprint continues decline, plans job cuts and cost cuts of $2.5 billion":

"This sets up another problem of increasing unemployment. Sprint is not going to necessarily be a better place by cutting workers. It's just the first place that shows near instant cost reductions. This is what Wall Street lives on but not the people losing their jobs.

Carriers here are having a field day because of the lack of competition. This is why the US is falling so far behind in internet speeds and service. The carriers are not putting serious money into infrastructure but rather are abandoning plans such as DSL for the higher priced cell phone services.

The major carriers here have pushed cities and states into passing laws or regulations that in essence prevents a city or private company from coming in and creating a new ISP. This not only hinders competition but in many places they have no intention of ever servicing an area. Today many potential customers only have one or two providers are best and if you are looking for higher speeds then if one is available it is only one."

About the "The Average American Worker Earns Less Today Than 40 Years Ago":

"All the services and products have went up in price but wages have not. Due to the Obamacare, companies are cutting work hours so that those employees have even less yet are expected to pay for the insurance themselves since they are not full time employees.

Jobs have went up and down as far as availability but notice no where do they talk of what that means as far as income goes. Because all the employers are cutting work hours and putting more employees at less than full working hours, yes, of course there are more jobs if you just count the numbers. That doesn't mean better. It just shows how to lie with statistics."

About 'Loli':

"The first time you are confronted by those groups, you will magically hear, "free speech". That claim won't acknowledge there are consequences for "free speech", only that it is their right to have it. Once there is a group of them here you will have drive by down voting as a common tactic to lower the the clamor against their supposed right."

"I very much agree with the idea of what the down vote is used for. Those that come later will be the ones that use it for the disagreement button. I use the upvote for commendable discussions, often even if I disagree with them."

About night/dark mode:

"I don't know you would save any meaningful electricity as your monitor is still displaying a color even when it is dark. You'd have to count up months to see any appreciable savings.

I too prefer the dark over light."

About create a cap on how many subs you can create per day:

"I don't think it should just stop at the amount of subs created but also the amount any particular member can mod. I would also suggest because this will come up when this site gets a few more members, that any sort of group that wants to attempt to control mods, be denied any sort of acknowledgement this is a problem.

Leave it up to the admin or what ever group he designates to handle that if there is mod abuse of any sort. This is what Voat and Reddit ran into and it was a major problem. What Voat found out was those mods whom they had problems with were also the major content submitters and once they were gone, all that was left for content was mainly racial, hate, drama, and reposts but little original content. Not much content for new members to encourage them to stay. On Reddit it was never addressed and you have mods modding 130 subs and you know no one has that amount of time to realistically mod properly. It was noted many times that when someone got cross ways of a power mod, the member found he was banned not only from the sub that was the problem but all the rest s/he never visited.

One or two of the trolls were in the habit of making throw-a-way subs. Instead of wallpapering a sub with their trollish topics, they could hide that behind a sub link within the site until it was figured out what was going on. Used once or twice and then abandoned. No method to delete them, nor any further use once disposed of. Just a bunch of dead subs littering the place.

Another issue will be link shorteners. When the trolls get started, sooner or later the admin will have to start putting domains in the block list. This will follow with link shorteners and then with Reddit links to the same spam. Go ahead and save yourself the trouble by blocking link shorteners now.

One other suggestion is to make the email mandatory for registering, rather than a choice. For all but a few, this will limit your spammers and trolls somewhat once they run out of valid email addresses. I would also block those emails that are anonymous services so they can't be used, such as sharkmail or the like. Since IP blocks can not be used effectively with TOR and VPN, this would provide a bottle neck."

About the (number of; quantity of) Australians on that site:

"You might be today, won't be the case when this place gets some regular members in. You'll just have to settle then for being the first."

About make written reason required for why you are downvoting a comment/post:

"That would be an interesting concept. Floating the site off in a different direction not taken before. Don't know it is workable but as far as I am concerned it'd be worth a shot for something different."

About the option to open links in a new tab:

"It's called the middle mouse button. Try that on a link and it opens in a new tab. This is one I've not mentioned because there is still a lot of unfinished work to be done on the site to complete it and it's a minor thing I can handle myself.

Like you it was aggravating to me until the same was suggested to me. I took the time to learn to do this from that suggestion and now use it all the time anywhere on the net."

About a context button and reminder of what discussion post are coming from:

"I'm finding this as well. My suggestion would be to add to the bottom menu under the posts, the title of content and hook it to the OP post. Since there is already a permalink to hook to the response of a post in a thread.

edit I notice one thing else that keeps me lost. I keep wondering what flock I'm in. Maybe the title of the flock should be at the top when you arrive at a new one. For this one I'd mark it up as a to-do item, as it won't be as important as when more folk arrive."   

About 25 Subcription Cap:

"Another question in my mind to this limit might be the display length of the menu. Doesn't help much if you have over 25 subs subscribed to but can't see them below the browser window.

Is there a chance that these can be side windowed when the list reaches the limit of visibility? I suspect this is a lot of coding work and this might not be the proper time to bring this up, being more cosmetic than functional to the site getting up and running."

"Sort of figured it would work itself out as to what things are called. Normally that is how it evolves. I'm game, call it what you will and I'll adapt."

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Re: Long time no Mojo. Do you miss him?
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2016, 06:54:22 PM »
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« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2016, 03:06:23 AM »
About the presidential candidates and who are you guys leaning towards:

"Where do I go with this to express my total frustration with the two party system at present?

On the GOP side, it looks like a bunch of clowns at a circus. There is not one solid candidate I would consider as being trustworthy to improve the economy, the infrastructure of the nation, to ignore corporate interests over national interests, or to even do the right thing for the right reason.

On the Dem side, Hillary? You got to be kidding. Didn't we just have a president still serving who can't be trusted to do what he promised to do? Now Hillary, who if there is one single thing the citizens believe it is that she can't be trusted.

Even worse is this email server thing. Notice that it is very carefully being ignored as far as bringing any sort of charges up till after the fact. Were this someone else, not in the political arena, they'd be under the jail floor, just on the security issue alone. Snowden has remarked that a private email server and security don't go hand in hand. Between the two I'd trust Snowden more, as I am yet to see him proven wrong.

So that leaves the independents. Of them Bernie sounds the best but even here I question a lot of the stuff he's putting out. Not that I don't believe he believes what he says but rather I think no one will co-operate with him to get his agenda done when it comes to Congress. Congress is already at the point it can't govern for all the political games being played. This will just add fuel to the fire.

If I have to pick one it will be Bernie, if for no other reason than to thumb my nose at the establishment who believes there are no other choices than the anointed candidates, appointed by the political machine."

"We still need two parties though.
Actually I question this. It's not that I think we need two parties but rather I think the power of two parties needs to be broken up into smaller sections. Why not 3 or 4 parties? Why not force these political parties to once again wheel and deal to get things done?

Say what you will about Bill Clinton, there was one thing he excelled at. He could sit down and work out a deal with opposing parties to get things done. It was something he has been portrayed as actually enjoying.

As opposed to that, we now have a sitting president who doesn't like to mingle with masses nor the congressional bodies, holding himself aloof and it's not the way you get things done.

The rich are using it to get richer and ruin the middle class.
We have another crisis on the horizon. That of automation removing jobs from the workplace. Yes, I know that new tech brings new jobs but the difference is that there are less jobs now which will be new and a total of more jobs that won't be there. No work, no pay.

There is only one direction money for taxes and money to keep the economy afloat is going to come from; the rich that have the money. Sooner or later, taxes must be wielded upon those most benefiting from the profits of raiding the economy as there is no where else to get it from.

...trickle down economics...
Never worked, never going to work. Any more than private managing of government branches will work. The privatization was merely a way to legally pay out to supporters for their loyalty. It was never about spreading the wealth, it was a coverup to make it sound good so the public would support it."

About the hopes for that other site:

"At present I have a wait and see attitude."

About the voat.co's traffic getting down and down (less and less) -- "Voat.co -- down and down...":

"I've seen this one referenced before, only it seems to have been updated with a continued slope. I'd say it demonstrates what ignoring certain fractions will bring for the future, laid out in black and white as a graph."

About the "to people who worry too much about the future" (of that other site):

"It works for a smaller community. When you get a couple of hundred thousands, all posting everywhere, it consumes a huge amount of time to look over everything. I suspect this would be the drawback to this approach.

On places like forums, the activity is a bit slower and can be managed for longer. Here you real time posting. I have no problem with this approach, I know it works. The issue is the amount of time it takes to keep watch on everything."

"Back in the day, I was once supermod of the world's 300ᵗʰ largest forum, globally ranked. A huge amount of members considering. Yet it was not bad to deal with in the sense the members themselves were not such as you see today on the social sites.

The trolls have demonstrated there is no real way to IP ban that is effective. Not without taking out a lot of innocent bystanders having nothing to do with the problem. This was one reason why I suggested making the email a mandatory item for registering and then blocking all the anonymous email sites.

It won't stop trolls from making their own email servers but it will add another PNA to the process of registering for someone continually making new accounts. You can't really stop those who are going to get in if it takes their last dying breath to do so but you can make it so that it is more hassle than it is worth and easier to go pester someone else."

"Notice that I said 'back in the day'. The forum closed down, the owner moved to another country. I'm not sure Google was even a thing then."

"Yeah, been kicking around the internet for a day or two. Lots of experience with forums and the like. That was just one of many."

"This is one of the reasons that limits should be enforced on how many flocks a mod can be in. It limits this sort of activity or at least makes it harder to accomplish.

I agree with you there should be a choice of places and mods so that should you have a falling out with one, it doesn't effect you at the whole site.

I would note here having a falling out doesn't necessarily mean you broke rules. It is meant in the manner of there will always be disagreements and in some cases, those disagreements are taken personally."

About 1 hour from creation of account till post:

"An interesting idea. Were I a troll or spammer, I would use that time making bucket fulls of accounts so that once it became effective to post I'd not have to worry about how long it took; only the first time."

About Rare Earth - I'm Losing You (music):

"I really liked their version of Tobacco Road."

About "Scientist Injects Himself with 3.5-Million-Year-Old Bacteria":

"Sorry, this one is just a little dated, the article being posted on Sept. 30, 2015."

"He's gambling on what is the best that could happen.

I read an article some time back, which I thought when I read the headline this one was referring to that one of the old bacterium/virui was massive in size compared to modern day ones. Thing is we don't really know why all the bits and pieces that are in the DNA are there for. It's not all complete genes and the like. There are scattered bits and pieces of others that don't seem to be connected to any particular gene. At some time they had a purpose but today it's hard to tell what purpose as they are no longer complete. It just might be we as a human race no longer have the protections from this or that particular virus or bacteria. Having no protection is really bad for an entire populace should it come out to be some sort of plague or the like.

When a new virus hits the population, you can tell it is new. They don't have the sorts of adaption in preservation that more aged ones do. Ebola is a prime example of this. Killing better than 90% of those infected. The virus doesn't have the self preservation to delay the effects over a longer period of time so it survives longer as the host isn't killed right away.

Look at the cold as an example of one that has adapted. It doesn't kill you, just makes you miserable while it multiplies and then has a chance to spread to more of the populace before it is killed by the bodies' antibodies. It can come back later to the same host again as the host survives."

About "Megatsunami 170 metres high once smashed into Cape Verde":

"Living a couple of hundred miles inland, it's gonna be one bad mamma jammer if I have to worry about such."

"Gotta a step ladder you can borrow if you need it."

About asking the admin "what will be allowed and what will be forbidden in there":

"What ever gave you the idea this was Reddit? This is a separate site with separate rules of it's own. Either live within them or go find you a site where you can."

About "Secret Service agents: Hillary is a nightmare to work with":

"Just another sign that Hillary is only for Hillary and the money.

Given her public persona, I take this as another indication of why Hillary is not trustworthy. She isn't who she pretends to be."

About "Alabama judges stop issuing marriage licenses altogether to avoid gay marriage":

"So I wonder how long this will last? Can't be good for all the others, who will be the predominate amount of people applying for a marriage license."

About "Southern Pacific AC-7 4-8-8-2 "Cab Forward"":

"Interesting but a nasty little sucker to be in a train wreck with.

Thank you, enjoyed the image."

About "Trying to sleep in but someone decided to join the party uninvited... ":

"Have a cat that's sort of strange. He'll sleep on the bed but when we both get in it, he goes elsewhere. As long as it's one person he'll stay. Sometimes I think he believes he's the size of a semi or something."

"Pets are strange critters with personalities all their own. Another odd ball with this cat, is that human food isn't his food. He'll not rob from a plate being defrosted, even if it is fish.

Now catfood and his cat snacks are another matter entirely. He sees you headed for the kitchen he's gonna lead you in... right to the cabinet where the snacks are stored. Then he's your best buddy... for the moment."

"Didn't raise this one. Answered an ad on Craigslist and saved it from a shelter. He doesn't get fed from the table or when we are eating. He only gets fed his cat food and snacks, that's it. We guess we got him at around 1 year old as the young lady that owned him was moving in with a boyfriend and his apartment complex allows no pets. Seemed the better way to acquire a cat."

"Nothing like a self powered floor cleaning unit, eh?"

About the "umbrellas in Agueda, Portugal":

"A strangely welcoming sight. Wonder how they suspend them? That's rather colorful and looks to be restful place to be."

About "The Doors - Riders On the Storm " (music):

"Always loved the sound of the rain in this one. Thank you for reminding me."

About the mods, who are able to hurt the website:

"TBH, I would be in favor of an impartial judge. Either the admin or whom he chooses to gather the evidence for or against. Leave the final say to the admin; owning a site has it's perks and responsibility.

edit There is one thing more to add. We can not expect the owner to be everything to everyone. Once you do that he has no time to code because he is constantly putting out the fires that a social site brings. In this I mean we can't expect to load him down with everything that pops up."

"On this one I will have to disagree. The amount of mods you have depends on the activity level to deal with. Some flocks will have a reasonable amount of content being posted yet little activity requiring a mod to deal with even though they may have a high subscriber count.

Others, more popular, such as defaults of say news or politics will be highly active, have contentious topics and responses, and will need a higher level of mod activity.

You can't really go by numbers. You need to go by activity level as to the amount of mods it takes. Another factor in this, is that when a mod is new, they tend to be more active. When they've been there a while it becomes old hat and that level of activity drops. This is a general notation, not one of a set rule.

People have real lives. So they won't always be here as a mod when the shit goes down should such occur. This will be taken to be the mod is letting this one slip' while at another time they may be on the site doing their duties and catch it fairly quickly. You'll see this demonstrated at times at Reddit when someone gets a thread deleted late and has all sorts of upvotes or downvotes before action is actually taken. To the outside member not in the staff, it looks like it was done on purpose to wait to delete a thread or to exorcize mod powers early.

I am not saying I'm in favor of threads being deleted but there will come the occasion sooner or later one needs to be addressed to prevent the wildfire of the community's opinion from going crazy. If you come in late as a mod to address it after the flames are high it looks like you were neglecting your duty when actually you may have just stepped into the crap."

"I have one other point I'm going to bring out about choosing mods and this one may not be so popular but in practice it holds true.

I've held many a hat, from owner of sites to member and everything in between except for being a coder. I've modded more places than I care to think about.

Here's the thing on mods. One is rarely should you ever chose the mod that is jumping at the bit to be a mod. Under normal circumstances you want the one that could leave it and be happy. Usually eagerness is a bad sign and asking to be one another. The exception being a new site where you absolutely have to have someone.

The other point I'll bring up here, is that you don't want just any body to fill a mod slot. You want someone with a vested interest in your topic or subject. They will bring far more material to the flock than someone who is not versed in the subject. A site such as this thrives on OC content. Better to have a mod that donates the right material than one who has no clue and waits for the members to post it for them. This is one of the keys to making a great place as opposed to a place with little activity."

About "Ballsy...":

"Maybe smart rather than ballsy. By this I would point to something like malls. When you have a mall (when they were the hot thing) other businesses flocked to the area because that was where the traffic was to get your product sold. It was a magnet for attracting people.

Likewise, you now will have a magnet for attracting that certain nerd who excels at coding or some other aspect of the computer world. It will tend to draw those who either need the education but have the aptitude or it will attract those who have the skills.

Just don't live there if you don't as the cost of living will be sky high."

About the CAPTCHAs:

"Whether it's true or not, there has been some speculation that Google may be datamining from their captchas. I don't see a lot they can get, short of what your browser sends any website to display the webpage as you should see it but the privacy people have at times went absolutely bananas over some of it."

"You might take a gander at this site." (i.e. the captcha.net.)

Another about the "How many users so far?":

"Word is being passed around. It's in Reddit, most likely in Voat, and folks will be talking. So at first the curious as well as few that like to push the boundaries will be by checking on things.

It will probably be a slow build up till the school holidays. When they hit, usually you notice it.

If either Voat or Reddit pisses a bunch of folks off, then best open your wallet or watch the server crash."

About "I like pie":

"π"

About Google changes motto:

"With the change of Google being a subsidy of Alphabet it has also changed it's motto of "Don't be evil" to "Do the right thing"."

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« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2016, 03:12:34 AM »
 About the introductions:

"I've noticed you around the site already f... . You do get around. See you out there!"

About "Lead detected in Flint Michigans water supply":

"Much has been blamed on guns for the violence that the US has. The idea that if you remove guns, everyone magically calms down and deaths slow down. Trouble is, it isn't guns that is the real heart of the issue. Put a gun in a corner, unloaded, leave it there for the next century and it will harm no one.

It's not the gun, it's the user, the one that pulls the trigger. The intent to purposely harm someone else. It's the attitude, the rage, that does this. That's part of what lead does.

You get lead in your body, you don't magically defaecate it back out. It gets in the body and remains in the body for the rest of its living days.

During my lifetime, we've removed lead from gasoline as a product. But for decades, cars when by spraying lead on the ground and pavement. Then the rains came so it's no longer on stuff, like grass. It went in the soil and now is in stuff like grass. We used lead for a paint additive. On an older home, that flaking paint well may have lead in it. That too winds up in the soil. We've used lead everywhere. It's in old houses in the plumbing, old kids toys as the paint, solder in electronic goods, you name it, we've probably used it and it is distributed through out the country.

Lead causes irritability and behavioral changes. Unless you're exposed to a huge dose, it's a slow ramp up. Road rage sound familiar? How about gangs running through out Detroit, well known for protecting their turf with violence.

Lead causes a drop in the IQ. Cognition that says you shouldn't do that is effected; in other words, your judgment."

"Let me lay another cute on on you. In many of these large cities, the water is being shut off for lack of payment. No job, no money to pay.

Those that have kids are put in a real bind. Mainly because child services looks at a lack of a bath as a sign that there is child abuse occurring and those kids have to go to school where it will be noticed.

So don't pay your bill and lose your kids. Pay your bill and have your life threatened by lead poisoning."

About text and links:

"I too think it makes a mess of the page. However there is a benefit to it in knowing what is in the text before going to the item or article. Maybe a short couple of sentences displayed of the topic text would be better?"

About how important is the coffee for us:

"It came later in life for me. At one time you could not give me coffee. Later on my tastes changed and now I like it. I've been cutting down on the coffee. I've went from a full pot a day to now it takes me a couple of days to work through a pot.

It's usually a couple of cups in the morning and a couple in the evening."

About "China to hasten roll-out of car charging network":

"With the air pollution that Beijing has I can see why they are rushing to put in the infrastructure to do this. It's either that or the citizens are starting to raise more hell about the pollution and health hazards.

In the US it's going to be more than just charging stations put up that's going to be required and it's going to take serious bucks to commit to this.

Do you live in a hot climate city in the US? Have you noticed the rolling brownouts every summer when people have their air conditioners on and are cooking supper? It's a sign there isn't enough electricity to go around. Power plants have are not being built to match the demand. Everyone has the NIMBY approach, yet they have to be built somewhere.

T. Boone Pickens ran into another part of the problem. He went to set up a series of wind powered generators across the US in the windy parts of the country. One of the major things he ran into was the power grid would not handle the generated power he was intending to add. The whole system in the areas he was building was designed for residential receiving and was light weight for the needs of distributing power. So where those generating stations were put also required changes not only to the lines themselves but to have addition substations put in to handle the extra generated power. This is not limited to just out in the boonies of the US. It's country wide."

About Texas:

"There has over the years been a constant effort to rewrite history. One that comes to mind is the confederate flag. I would state right off I don't own such a flag. But the point is this occurred and it is recorded in historical events and happenings that the flag was used. People died fighting for what they believed in. On both sides it wasn't just white folk dying. Blacks fought too. This effort to rewrite history is an on going thing.

Texas has the largest market I am aware of in the US for school text books and often once approved other states see it as easier to adopt the same books already printed than to decide what is to be in the text books of their own school systems. This is one of the main reasons why text books in Texas and what they contain are fought over so hard. It is also one of the places where those with special interests in changing how history or any other topic of study make sure their interests are represented strongly in Texas."

About the disabled sub creation:

"I kinda think this is a nice move. It will prevent the fly-bys coming in with their own agendas just setting up house and then calling all their buddies to get it started.

Definitely see an advantage to this, community wise."

About a night-mode:

"Oh, thank you. Up and running first shot out of the box. Painless install using Greasemonkey.

Your work is greatly appreciated from this corner of the interwebz!"

"G..., install Greasemonkey in your browser. It needs to be Firefox as your browser. After that go to the last paragraph of A...'s instructions, click on the last click link in it for scripts. After a few seconds, the script will show an install button activated. Install it."

"I'm at present most grateful for the dark mode. I see you are still modding it to become what it will be. Fantastic. I think for a week or so, I'll hold on to the original version and then come back for the latest greatest when you've had time to fine tune it.

Outstanding work, A... ."

About the "Discuss: If we notice a problematic well-known user from Reddit, Voat, etc., should we expose him/her or not?":

"I'm with the side of giving them a chance in hopes they have learned something. Even though most of the time it doesn't work out that way. As they say, leopards don't change their spots. Still this is a new site, and even given that, I'd still be willing to let them be who ever they are going to be."

"I did not say it had to stay that way. Once they have shown their colors it's a horse of a different matter. But giving them a chance first seems only right."

"Got to thinking and wanted to come back with one thing. It's ok not to agree on something. It's the nature of a discussion and you can't have a good one without two sides."

About "DEA Employees Fail Drug Tests, Shockingly Face No Serious Consequences":

"That's not shocking. That's business as usual.

Remember the Secret Service detail that went to South America to setup for Obama's visit that were involved with the prostitutes paid for by the drug lords? They still have jobs as well.

It's only if you are the little guy you have to worry about drugs. You don't have the government to aid you in the fight to keep that job."

About content mirroring is live:

"You know, one of the things I've found is a lot of the content is just heisted from Reddit and presented elsewhere as original content. Not very often I do that. It may be on Reddit because I don't search to find out but I go to the place with the original content is to get it. Finding it is always the bitch part but that's what I do."

About Hybrid hypercars:

"The article is part 1. Here is part 2."

About "AdBlock Plus to introduce independent board to oversee Acceptable Ads program":

"I much agree and Adblock is not the first to have sold out for the money. I've already switched to a multiple. I have Adblock Edge (who hasn't sold out yet) along with Ublock in conjunction. Yes they will work together. I run both for a reason beyond just ads. Another extension that adds on to Edge, is Inspect Element. With that I can take out all the aggravating floating nav bars, floating twitter, google, and facebook, side tags. Anything that reduces the visual real estate on my screen by what some company thinks is important to them but I consider another bothersome eyesore. I tag it, put it as an item to be blocked, just as if it was an ad and never see it again, even if I return to that site again weeks later.

edit

Here's an example:

Here is the original page on the internet for you to look at.

Here is what I see when I go to the same site."

About "Oregon shooter's father advocates for gun laws changes":

"The problem here isn't guns. We've had guns through out the history of the US. You tell me why we didn't have mass school shootings in the 20's and 30's.

It's not that guns have changed so much. They are still basically the same thing, point it, pull the trigger, out comes the bullet.

What has changed are the trigger pullers; in other words people.

If you get all heated up over people dying, why are you not addressing automobile accidents as a greater killer than guns? Or cancer, wouldn't hurt to be heated up over the lack of investigation into what is causing cancer and save a whole bunch of lives, now and in the future.

The thing is, I want all these folk calling for gun control to show me the public mental health facilities in the US. Where are they? If you're rich you don't have a problem finding one. If you are poor, the US has basically used the prison system as the place to put the mentally ill but only after they've become a problem to society. Nothing is done to address it before.

As a last comment, I find I need a gun from time to time. I live in a small town, more country than city. It is not uncommon to have skunks, porcupines, and wild hogs come in the yard. Hogs stripped the bark from my young apple trees. I don't know how they survived but they did. I've had a skunk under my place and you are not going to crawl under there and win a fight with him. I've had to pull the spines out of one of my dogs muzzle.

Skunks are well known vectors for rabies. You don't want to tangle with one for more reasons than just smell.

Ever dealt with a wild hog? A baseball bat isn't going to cut it. He'll put you in the hospital for stitches if you are lucky. If he's down right mean, it will be more serious. My father tied in with a wild boar and had a scar on his leg from ankle to knee where the boar got him. He was lucky and could get up on a fence before the hog could finish the job.

My point is guns are a necessity where I live. I've been shooting since I was old enough to know gun safety. I've served in the military. What I have no intention of doing is using it against someone without it being a life threatening circumstance. I have no desire to shoot someone. No desire to go to a school or public place where I don't know anyone one at and take it out on them.

The other and last thing here, is that communications have sped up. You don't read in the news papers about some mass shooting that happened last week on the other side of the nation. It is right there, in your face nearly as it happens. So some mentally challenged kid thinks this is the way to get famous. This again is not caused by the gun. Remember that the news media's motto is, "If it bleeds, it leads".

I suggest our problems are greater than guns. Taking guns away will not stop killing. Far too easy to make a knife and the threat is still there. You'll never regulate knives because of this."

About a school restroom:

"I'm still trying to find out what subs we should mirror posts from.
Your most heavily trafficked subs; most likely News and Politics at least. Having that tag shows running over to Reddit and grabbing the headlines will tell on you. So those seeking karma solely for the sake of karma get told on. Love that as a tell tale.

It could well encourage them to go out and seek OC content which would not be a bad idea. Question in my mind, is what happens if it comes here first and then to Reddit? Still get tagged after the fact?"

"I am sure you are aware that for some ungodly reason there are folk that set high value on karma scores. They will work at karma mining and that is a real problem at Reddit. Go to one of the default subs on Reddit and take a look at how many comments are actually on topic. Also note how many are fighting for top comment place for karma mining purposes with very little actually to do with the topic at hand. Make any sort of comment on topic and what happens to it as others trying to get into the top spots.

What's the quickest way to submit content? Run over and take it off Reddit because next to no effort is required.

If this site is to eventually hold it's own then it must have it's own OC. Something to bring folks in because they can't find it elsewhere."

"Actually I do like it. It sets the stage for the way to submit content. Something that the members will learn to do automagically as it encourages OC content over borrowed content from your competitor. Admittedly, Skimur will be no threat to them at this stage."

About "Daimler tests a self-driving, mass-produced truck on real roads":

"You're looking at the development of a technology that will be the next major layoff source globally. Within the next 10 years there are going to be massive employment problems world wide."

About what we're wearing right now:

"I'm wearing my summer clothes, tee shirt and shorts."

About "This is a very small community. I bet all of you could fit inside my house.":

"The competent master of the one cheek sneak I take it."

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« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2016, 03:44:38 PM »
 About the plastic bags:

"I read it and it sort of looked like an infomercial for the Plastics Association or some such. I have to wonder if they carry ads for their sponsors either in the magazine or on their tv program.

Here's the thing I know. I live in a arid, hot, and at times windy clime. I'm stuck with my neighbor's plastic bags as flowers in trees or as fence decorations when the wind blows. My dogs love them, they love to grab hold of them and just shred the hell of of them.

Now exactly why my various neighbors don't know what a trash can is for is beyond me. But it's usually a weekly chore when the wind is blowing to go police the yard of plastic bags.

You can also tell when grocery stores get the idea to use a cheaper bag to save money. They are thinner and don't tote the weight of can goods very well. Often not surviving the trip from the register to being put in the vehicle. Don't start me on getting the goods inside the house. That's another obstacle course in itself. Maybe you get them in, maybe it's another trip to pick them up off the ground.

I'm not sure what the answer is but plastic bags isn't it here abouts. My neighbors make damn sure I'm out in the yard sometime."

About the user karma feature:

"While I am sure everyone wants to know, honestly it's not as important in the scheme of things it be done right away or even next week for that matter. We'll all survive just dandy whether it is done or not.

The more important thing is get your rest."

About a motto:

"Flock with the best.

Make your point."

About a photo 'Times Square, 1957':

"...and a llama photobombs..."

About "Ben Bernanke says Wall Street executives should have gone to jail":

"It's the double standard of the Medieval Ages of high court and low court. High court was for the nobles. If caught stealing a loaf of bread, the noble might be sentenced to actually paying the baker. In low court, a peasant might be sentenced to losing the hand.

You get all the justice you can afford today."

About "Human rights are no longer a “top priority” for the Government, Britain’s most senior Foreign Office official":

"Conservatives have kind of crapped on the idea of human rights. There's no money in it.

There is a payoff if you are running torture jails for info but then you can't exactly do as the US and claim human rights issues afterwards without being the laughing stock. China has loved throwing this back in the face of the US every time they holler human rights."

About "South Carolina hit by torrential rainfall, eight dead ":

"18 inches in a day? That's some pretty serious rain. Nearly posted this last night from another source but it being the weekend wasn't too sure it wasn't old in terms of news.

I'd read somewhere one of the rivers was 10 foot over flood stage. That's some serious water coming in."

About what you're wearing again:

"It's fall, the trees are changing colors."

About "Hillary: I'm the Most Transparent Person in American History":

"Be very careful about taking what is said here as gospel.

Obama came in riding on those coat tails. But what really happened was the word transparent somehow got redefined to mean something else. The USTR used this to claim the TTIP was a transparent process. A trade agreement that like all the other major Obama initiatives came out to mean if you were an insider then yes, you could connect from your laptop at home to the trade agreement workings. If you were a part of congress, that's making an appointment, no aids to help you with the technical points, no pens, paper, cameras, or note taking devices, a guard in the room with you, being under camera the whole time, and only being able to see one chapter at a time. If you were someone from the public interest side, you aren't acknowledged as being player worth hearing.

During this time the USTR was claiming the most transparent process in history. Saying that they listened to all sides. Only transparency isn't about just listening, it's about passing info out and that part was totally missing on the public interest sides.

When the words of the English language are redefined to mean other than what is accepted, it's not to the public's benefit. Given Hillery's public image is believed to be less than trustworthy, I'll leave it up to your for your own decision on what is presented here."

About "Somobody good at math? A lottery question. :)":

"The lottery is akin to gambling. Not against gambling mind you; just don't do it because I have the wrong personality for it and know it.

When you hear casino ads, to hear them talk they are just giving money away to any that show up. That's not how it is. They are there to make money, not give it away. Same with the lottery.

In Fla the lottery is supposed to finance education. Once in place the legislature promptly reduced state funding parts depending on the lottery to fund education instead. So where does that funding come from? Every one who didn't win.

Nor is winning the lottery a sign you will actually get paid. I forget which state but I think it was Illinois, didn't pay off because they didn't have a state budget approved. Then there are the claims of cheating that come from time to time where they refuse to pay off. No problem if someone was actually cheating, even though that is hard to figure how you'd do that. But if you buy a ticket and they claim that, you're not going to get paid."

"By no means am I faulting you, Georgi. You are laying out what many of us are in. Trust you are not by yourself in these matters.

With the economy being what it is and employers/businesses/corporations taking advantage of it, we people who do the work are getting the bad end of the stick on the pay scale and it puts us all in just the circumstances you describe in your last comment.

Worse coming down the line in the next 20 years or so is going to see working at a job as a privilege rather than a way to get ahead in life to get those things you'd really like to have. Automation and robots are fixing to change the whole economy and none of our politicians are addressing that yet. But it is coming as surely as the sun rises.

The point of the above is you invest in your future and start a business, you'll find you're standing on air when the bottom falls out and there won't be anywhere to run that changes things. If there is one thing for certain it's that we are living a high state of economic turmoil and for most of us there is no safety net at this time.

I made mention in my last post, that I have the wrong sort of personality for casinos and gambling. Easy to become addicted to the thrill of the bet and I know this. I've never set foot in a casino and never played the lottery for this reason. I'll game on the computer where all it costs me is the electricity and time to do so. This way I keep my finances to myself ever how humble they might be.

So my answer to you in that is, it's your money, your choice in how you will spend it, and yours to do with as you see fit. There is no condemnation here on that matter."

About tabs instead of menu items:

"Yes, exactly. At one time for a short while there was a just Hot. When you clicked on that you got a drop down with the choices of which you wanted, whatever you chose remained the choice.

At present it always defaults to Hot. This was a common complaint that brought quite a few threads about it at Voat over time, as it was the same setup for the menu items as present here.

If you decide to do this, put it on the back burner as something to be done down the road. This is not a must have right now but a nice to have one."

"I just did one to be able to maybe explain better. I was on the New menu in /s/all. I clicked on the flock of /s/guitar which was the head item at the moment and when I show up in /s/guitar I'm back on Hot rather than New.

Does this explain it better?"

"Let us wait a bit and see others chime in to see if it is a desired feature. If I'm the only one mentioning this then it isn't worth the work and aggravation to do."

About "Am Traktor train has derailed...":

"If only 4 were injured out of 98 passengers from a train derailment that's pretty good for safety. Or the circumstances just happened to be just right. No train derailment is good but if you have one, better one where few are injured than all are dead.

I guess later after the investigation we'll find out exactly the cause of this"

About "Air France execs flee meeting with clothes in tatters":

"I'm not all that in favor of mob justice but these execs need to actually feel the pain they are planning to inflict on other families. When they go to talking layoffs, why are we not seeing senior management share that pain if it is good for the company?"

About 'Turkish jets intercept Russian warplane":

"Be not fooled that we don't do the same, you just don't hear of it on the national news that we did it too. You only hear about the 'other guy'."

About "Simple ways to be in a good relationship with the others here! :)":

"Our younger generation is the first to grow up with the internet having always been there. Those before this time, have the benefit of face to face communications as a standard theme. In face to face you get feed back from unspoken body language and expressions that are totally missing in on line text. Every easy to misunderstand someone or take it wrong as you have no clue from the subtle hints you would get in RL.

I point to the younger gen not to make fun of them or anything of such nature but to bring up a point. Much of what you see and how you react to it, involves your level of maturity and how far along you are to being 'grown up' as in the sense of adulthood. The very last thing to develop is normally the realization of consequences. Unless some major event has happened in your life before then, it will not come till later on in maturity. So having a fat people hate is fun with out the benefit of knowing it could be turned on them later in life.

Most of what you see in these FPH deals are all young kids in high school or college and have not yet had to get out in the world and deal with making a living and how that forces changes in your life.

Politics is another critter. Never expect to come in and change someone's view points of life and how it ought to be. Your life experiences and theirs differ and always will. Their viewpoints will be influenced by their environment as will yours. What you see in your environment and what they see in theirs will be totally different.

Religions are a topic I avoid. In this case you are talking about belief systems that can not be substantiated in scientific fact. People will chose to believe or not believe; nothing you can say will alter that. Each attempts to prove there are real world events caused by ignoring their beliefs or that their religion is the only one true religion. No one wants to accept a cabal of gods."

"I believe you have just demonstrated how easy it is to misunderstand text.

I did not say I was younger, I was making an observation I've noticed over time with these groups when encountering them."

"I know nothing of Buddhism any more than I know of Hinduism. Religions are based on faith. You have it or you don't. If you are firmly committed, nothing the world produces will change or shake that faith. More power to you."

About "Windows 10 leaked build 10558: Everything you need to know":

"Microsoft has had a major problem with their new releases of OSes. If you get to looking it seems one in two or three is actually a hit the computer world likes and the rest they just pass on by. So years of work goes down the drain while they work on a new one. You can look at the adoption of Vista and all it's complaints to the rework of it in Win 7 as a good example.

Microsoft says it is now going to drop all that and just use this system with updates as needed.

I don't particularly like the security issues with Win 10 and I'm not going to download nor install to upgrade Win 7. Every time I upgrade or get a new OS, software I really like breaks. I hate datamining and even worse ads.

I'm seriously thinking of going back to Linux over these latest greatest out of Redmond."

About a free beer:

"I'll say hello to you but no need of a beer. I rarely drink and a 12 pack will last me 6 months or better. I'm good."

"Thank you but I'm good."

About "Digital books stagnate in closed, dull systems...":

"Not sure this belongs here. Ok by me to delete or remove if you feel it doesn't fit the sub."

About the electric shavers:

"Off and on I've used them but not my favorite method. I wait for it to grow and then use a barber set of clippers."

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« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2016, 01:20:06 PM »
Amazing answers and comments. Reading Mojo's words I feel better, cleverer and wiser even. I know now is summer time and most of you/us are not here often or they're but they aren't so active, but please, please, continue Mojo's. I miss it. :-X

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Re: Amazing answers
« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2016, 01:35:31 PM »
Amazing answers and comments. Reading Mojo's words I feel better, cleverer and wiser even. I know now is summer time and most of you/us are not here often or they're but they aren't so active, but please, please, continue Mojo's. I miss it. :-X
Yes. It's a vacation time now, but I got busy with the new pickup forum and with my first pickup e-book. Plus, I'm trying to be more active offline -- yesterday we walked around 11 km and then I have some sports downstairs. I feel good offline and it's healthy, you know.
 Well, it was and it is a great Mojo thread! I'd like to continue it. Really!
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