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Why NOT TO advertise on Voat.co
« on: May 22, 2016, 05:37:52 AM »

Why not to advertise on Voat.co


Months ago we knew and we were sure, that voat.co is not going to survive financially, if there are no ads. And because we believed it may be a good website (it was a pretty naive hope!), we suggested it, but our idea wasn't welcome at all.

Because the voat.co's owners (the young Bosnian Muslim Atif Colo - 'Atko' and another young man) are sort of slow, after months they at last got it and started to use ads on voat.co! (As some voater nicknamed 'mukt' replied: "... Atko... refuse ads on Voat about an year ago. How things change!")

And now I want to tell you why I think it's better for you NOT TO advertise on Voat.co


Some of us mentioned a lot about the problems in voat.co. If you read all of this linked topic, you're probably understanding already why to advertise in voat.co is not a good idea, but if you didn't read it and/or if you don't understand, I will explain more here, now.

1. Atko himself posted once that
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... Voat is not a safe space...

2. Read this: "...Voat’s rules may look more strict, the difference between the two is that Reddit has begun battling harassment in earnest. On Voat, there is no such battle because harassment is permitted. (Source: "Is Voat Safe for Teens?" http://thirdparent.com/is-voat-safe-for-teens/)

3. Not only harassment, but rude words, aggressive behavior, insults... racism, hate against the fat people, shitposting, hate speech... It's a long list of the Voat'co's negatives. Voat.co allows bad, evil things. This is the simple truth.

4. Let me show you an opinion of another person (a voater), who  is also supporting the idea not to advertise on voat.co: 18 days ago, he posted something amazing:

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Sorry but I have no intention of supporting Voat financially seeing as how Voat inherited a lot of Reddit's censorship tactics and group-think ideologies. There are far too many ex-redditors,sheeple,retards,feminists and fail-trolls lurking around this site downvoting my content and comments.

Even if I were to advertise on this site all that would do is attract the worst that Voat has to offer and cause me nothing but problems and grief in the long run. I have already personally experienced first hand advertising on Reddit and I doubt it would be any different here.

I have no intention of investing my hard earned cash to a negative and ignorant community that has no interest in any of my services or content and only seeks out to hurt or to destroy me. This is my take in this matter and it should be taken into consideration.

You can do as you like with your money but I am no fool.
Source: https://voat.co/user/TheUnderNetwork/comments

5. If you didn't know it, let me inform you that Atko doesn't keep his own anti-spam rules (20/80) and he banned this website for spam, without any spam; we kept very hard and responsibly the voat.co's anti-spam rule, but the Bosnian Muslim Atif Colo (Atko) doesn't keep it. So how I can trust a person like him and to advertise on Voat.co?! It's impossible and I'll never advertise there! My advise to you is: do the same! Don't advertise on Voat.co.

So...


If you really need to advertise on the Internet, you have a lot of options: You may advertise on Google, advertise on Yahoo, advertise on Instagram, advertise on Amazon, advertise on Facebook, advertise on Bing, advertise on Twitter, advertise on Groupon, etc., and even you may already advertise on seo-forum-seo-luntan.com. :)
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Re: Why NOT TO advertise on Voat.co
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2016, 05:39:30 AM »
Outstanding post! 8) So true.

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Why NOT TO advertise on Voat.co (in a nutshell)
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2016, 05:52:17 AM »
 Yes, it is, but there are many persons, who will say "Too long; didn't read!". That's why, to put the matter in a nutshell (In a nutshell meaning is "In the fewest possible words."):

1. Atko (Atif Colo -- a young Bosnian Muslim, co-admin/co-owner of the website voat.co) doesn't keep his own rule! Can't trust a person, who doesn't keep his own rules!

2. Voat.co is a website allowing many evil, terrible things like: hatred (racism, hate against the obese people), hate speech, low quality posts, aggression, harassment... Advertising on a bad/evil place equals supporting it. Less ads = less chances this terrible website (voat.co) to survive!

3. Why you should spend your money to advertise in a website with less traffic (less users and visitors), when you can advertise in websites with much more traffic (much more visitors) like: Google, Yahoo, Bing, Amazon, Facebook, Twitter and so-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o many others!

 If you need more information or/and explanation, just let me/us know!
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Re: Why NOT TO advertise on Voat.co
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2016, 06:16:56 AM »
I'm here to add only 2 points:

The first point:

These days I already said about Atko here: "... to explore their rules, to keep their rules and, sometimes, to deal with users, moderators and administrators, who are not able to understand and follow their own rules, like in that case with the Voat.co's admin (co-admin) Atif Colo (a young Bosnian Muslim male), who doesn't follow their own (voat.co's) anti-spam rule ('20% : 80%') and banned Seo-forum-seo-luntan.com in Voat.co, explaining the ban with a lie 'spam'! >:() "

And now, the second point:

As a fair forum we should provide the right of free speech and free expression about this topic ('Why NOT TO advertise on Voat.co'). So, if there are some readers/lurkers/visitors/users/colleagues who think that to advertise on voat.co is okay and/or they are pro-voat.co, pro-Atko and so on, they're all very warmly welcome to express their point of view (BUT, please behave in a civilized manner!).

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Re: Why NOT TO advertise on Voat.co
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2016, 06:42:50 AM »
It's not about pro-voat.co and anti-voat.co. It should be about an objective point of view -- should someone advertise in a website (no matter voat.co or another one), which:
  • Hasn't very significant traffic (comparing with those Google, Yahoo, Bing, Yandex, Pinterest, Baidu and really many others.)
  • Has a lot of dirt (aggressive people, crazy/abnormal/ill people, racists and other kinds of degenerated persons.)
  • Has an admin, who even can't follow a simple own rule.
  • Has an admin, who changes his opinion (and having two sharply contrasting opinions in a comparatively short period of time). (As it was mentioned above: No ads! <-> Ads!)
?

I'll vote 'No!' in every case like this one. It doesn't matter if the case is 'voat.co' or another website. (In fact I know only a few websites that have got so many terrible, disgusting, low-level, degenerating content, but it's not that important.)
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Re: Why NOT TO advertise on Voat.co
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2016, 11:51:50 PM »
And don't forget the downvote brigades in voat.co! (It's a form of censorship.)
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Reasons why NOT TO advertise on Voat.co
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2016, 11:58:37 PM »
Useful thread about the reasons why not to advertise on voat.co. 8) 8)
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Re: Why NOT TO advertise on Voat.co
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2016, 05:10:45 AM »
And don't forget the downvote brigades in voat.co! (It's a form of censorship.)
Yes, it is a form of censorship, because it's not like here (no matter how many downvotes you get over here in this big international omnilogy forum, you may continue to post what you want, as usual).
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Re: Why NOT TO advertise on Voat.co
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2016, 05:17:29 AM »
And don't forget the downvote brigades in voat.co! (It's a form of censorship.)
Yes, it is a form of censorship, because it's not like here (no matter how many downvotes you get over here in this big international omnilogy forum, you may continue to post what you want, as usual).
Hi!
As kittenmommy said on Reddit's r/VOATinAction, Free speech on Voat? You know, that place where, if you get enough downvotes, you can't post anymore? That's one of the most hilarious things I've read here yet!
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Re: Why NOT TO advertise on Voat.co
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2016, 05:35:01 AM »
And don't forget the downvote brigades in voat.co! (It's a form of censorship.)
Yes, it is a form of censorship, because it's not like here (no matter how many downvotes you get over here in this big international omnilogy forum, you may continue to post what you want, as usual).
Hi!
As kittenmommy said on Reddit's r/VOATinAction, Free speech on Voat? You know, that place where, if you get enough downvotes, you can't post anymore? That's one of the most hilarious things I've read here yet!
 Don't be stupid and don't waste your money! Respect your money! 8) :)
Ohhh, when it comes to reddit.com/r/VOATinAction/ ('This kills the goat.' ;D) I have to mention another redditor there, nicknamed 'mizmoose'. This redditor has very good observations, understanding and so on about the problems of voat.co and its essence at all. For example, look at this on-topic one: "Voat merchandise is here! Buy now and let the world know your hatred of n*ggers, fatties, Muslims, and cucks." ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D So well said (posted)! :)
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Re: Why NOT TO advertise on Voat.co
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2016, 05:40:04 AM »
Wow!  ;D It means there are many other people, who can see the truth in in a similar (and very original, parody, funny, ironic) way.

Good to know!

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Re: Why NOT TO advertise on Voat.co
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2016, 06:13:43 AM »
Yes, it really is. I want to read more opinions. All kind of. :)

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Re: Why NOT TO advertise on Voat.co
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2016, 06:15:14 AM »
In fact I invited already 3 persons, who I know and who have some idea what voat.co is. The 1-st one has some internet difficulties and just, after around 1 hour offline chat about this, told me to say she supports our point of view that it's a very bad idea to advertise and/or to support voat.co in anyway (because it's an anti-human and evil website, if I can summarize it in this way.) By the way she has not registration (an account here), as far as I know.
 The second one also was informed about it (and I think also read the topic), but seems not interested to post opinions, because "It's a waste of time to deal with those kind of degenerates."
 And the third person, I can quote even, because our chat is written:

"I had read it (i.e. means this thread), but didn't comment. I see no sense in providing hits for a search engine for something I no longer support.

Thank you for the link but on this one I think I'll hold my peace.

..."

 So, as we all may see (understand), there are many others who think the same or almost the same. They're just not posting here and it's up to them, of course. I do respect their right to chose when to post and when to be just readers. (I also do not post every time and everywhere.)
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Re: Why NOT TO advertise on Voat.co
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2016, 08:12:18 PM »
In fact I invited already 3 persons, who I know and who have some idea what voat.co is. The 1-st one has some internet difficulties and just, after around 1 hour offline chat about this, told me to say she supports our point of view that it's a very bad idea to advertise and/or to support voat.co in anyway (because it's an anti-human and evil website, if I can summarize it in this way.) By the way she has not registration (an account here), as far as I know.
 The second one also was informed about it (and I think also read the topic), but seems not interested to post opinions, because "It's a waste of time to deal with those kind of degenerates."
 And the third person, I can quote even, because our chat is written:

"I had read it (i.e. means this thread), but didn't comment. I see no sense in providing hits for a search engine for something I no longer support.

Thank you for the link but on this one I think I'll hold my peace.

..."

 So, as we all may see (understand), there are many others who think the same or almost the same. They're just not posting here and it's up to them, of course. I do respect their right to chose when to post and when to be just readers. (I also do not post every time and everywhere.)
 :)

I didn't get it.  ??? How posting about reasons you should not advertise on Voat.co is providing hits for the SE (search engines)? The hits are only for this website, because the content is posted in here. For example, if we post here this '7ewdd3298dhsakjhsd33ekjhrewkjhrew2016', it will be indexed and showed in the SEs SERPS only for seo-forum-seo-luntan.com, not for voat.co or another website. Or maybe I don't know something?

And, sure, it's up to them; we don't press anybody to post or not to post. Freedom. :)

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