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Normal Incels (Incels Without Hate) => A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) => Topic started by: MSL on June 26, 2024, 03:20:54 AM
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Incelology (practical)
Here is a new topic about my (and yours) experience with the incels in the real life.
I will start to share, step by step, anonymously, my experience with the incels online and offline.
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One of the most irritating situations is when you spent a lot of precious time to give them advices, opinions, ideas and so on, but they criticize you for not being something like enough polite (or, the opposite -- enough honest), too pessimistic or too optimistic...
Later, I will try to be more specific.
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If he or she is an incel, it means that he/she got problems. If the problems are only body wise, it's okay, but if it's a mentalcel level, like the one we got here, oh, that's challenging indeed...
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Not just incels are like that. This is one of human's natures.
People tend to be reluctant to achieve education if the other side is not their teacher or smth like that, and people have different opinions. It is always a rigmarole to successfully make the other side accept your opinions that are different, particularly there are confounding factors including your face(yeah... there is no need to cope... face indeed factors in how easy it is for your interlocutors to accept your opinions), how you talk, how you construct your words, etc.
For ex, I, as an 'autist' in many fields including Economy, have argued with some economic ignorants who believe 10, 000, 000 rmbs net assets are just average in China while they are even very rich in Japan and America ntm in China, a country where there are 600, 000, 000 people whose monthly incomes are under 1000 rmbs, whose rate of poverty is exceedingly high, etc. because of their severe lack of economic common knowledge(they don't even know what 'Middle Class' is... yeah) and my latent anxiety about my richness because of my 'traumatic attitude' towards my height, caused by years of being ingrained with blackpillism, one of the reasons why I don't like blackpillism, only to get poked fun of because they think I lack of knowledge, I have yet to see rich people, I am very ignorant, etc. lol.
Many of my experiences with incels are very pale. I only got blackpilled and I could not get anything positive and meaningful from them. I only see them complaining how they should've not been born, how they hate their parents, how girls nowadays are different from them in the past who even would rather choose a 185cm lanky stupid abusive awfully-educated drunkard whose net assets are negative millions of rmbs than a 160cm handsome muscular rich Harvard graduate, etc.
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Everyone who is consuming your time and energy without paying you good money and even worse, doesn't show gratitude should be limited or ignored.
This kind of people are making us less free, more poor and less successful. They just consume but never will to pay.
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For ex, I, as an 'autist' in many fields including Economy, have argued with some economic ignorants who believe 10, 000, 000 rmbs net assets are just average
Broooooooooool, I will say that I feel tired reading your email example for the Nth time :-\. Don't you see that you are stuck in this for months if not years?
What the hell do you expect? Everyone to kneel down and to appreciate your big money? Yes, there are people who think it's nothing and the Stacies want much more. Can't you get over it?
If your moneymaxx is not enough for them just geomaxx in a poorer area and just gymmaxx to make them like you for your body too not only for your money.
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What are we talking about? I like to read it. But my favorite is when there is that combination "They like that Korean more than me!" + "They don't think of me as a rich man!" I mean, without the Korean guy example, it's not that "touching". But still, I like it.
It's everytime very interesting to read one and the same things but in different context. :D
A suggestion for the next post: "Did I told you that I am short?" + "They like gayish guys!" and "They'll think of you as a poor even when you are so rich as I am because they are ignorant!" and at the end our favorite Korean dude. 8) This is the perfect post, I am waiting for. ;)
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Usually time wasters. They are not easy to improve themselves and even when you give them valued suggestions, ideas, help they will become hostile or depressed. This is why many females and some males are hating them.
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Usually time wasters. They are not easy to improve themselves and even when you give them valued suggestions, ideas, help they will become hostile or depressed. This is why many females and some males are hating them.
Of course! Otherwise why some women do not like incels not only because of their high body fat or ugly face or else?
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The women want the best possible. A d when you are even not the average and on top of that you don't want to improve what you can improve, then you can't expect to be noncel.
For example, take your favorite heightpill topic. Once you are short you already can't get 50% of the women who will never have a short boyfriend. But the rest 50% may consider you as a boyfriend material only if you improve your others problems. Stop bring a fatcel, stop being a geocel, become a really rich man, build a strong man body, improve your style. After you improve yourself then 50% of the females could ignore your one (height) problem. But if you're possessing 5 or 10 other problems even 1% of the females won't consider you for anything more than a friend or an orbiter.
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Before you overreact or overthink my previous answer, take some time to read my benevolent heightpill experiment (https://www.seo-forum-seo-luntan.com/a-forum-for-incels-who-are-normal-people-no-terrorists-no-rapists-no-racists-no-pedophiles-no-haters-and-so-on/heightpill-experiment-for-shortcels/).
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Years of hard and almost useless experience...
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The women want the best possible. A d when you are even not the average and on top of that you don't want to improve what you can improve, then you can't expect to be noncel.
For example, take your favorite heightpill topic. Once you are short you already can't get 50% of the women who will never have a short boyfriend. But the rest 50% may consider you as a boyfriend material only if you improve your others problems. Stop bring a fatcel, stop being a geocel, become a really rich man, build a strong man body, improve your style. After you improve yourself then 50% of the females could ignore your one (height) problem. But if you're possessing 5 or 10 other problems even 1% of the females won't consider you for anything more than a friend or an orbiter.
I can understand the rest bu wdym by 'really rich'?
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I mean two aspects:
One is you as a person to control your wealth and not to post online stuff like "My father wouldn't agree me to spend $20000 for a forum." and "My father agrees to pay me 50% of my LL but the rest of it I should earn by myself."
You sound like a kid in the middle school that had some money but daddy or mommy only can decide what the student can or can't buy.
The second one is stuff like "I can't pay this month RMB 200 for gymmaxx because I paid already for languagemaxx."
A really rich man can't say that his daddy allows or disallows him spendings and a really rich person can't think about 200 yuan more or 200 yuan less (as a monthly spending). :D Do you know that some rich guys in Shenzhen only for a lunch do spend 700 yuan? For example a man who deals with construction tools. This is a really rich man. He spends 600-700-800 per lunch and will never say that he is wondering or hesitating how to spend 200 yuan. :D :D Needless to say he will never say what his father, mother, grandfather, grandmother or uncles think about his spending. :)
You just look poor in the eyes of the people like me who really met and dealt with rich men.
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I mean two aspects:
One is you as a person to control your wealth and not to post online stuff like "My father wouldn't agree me to spend $20000 for a forum." and "My father agrees to pay me 50% of my LL but the rest of it I should earn by myself."
You sound like a kid in the middle school that had some money but daddy or mommy only can decide what the student can or can't buy.
The second one is stuff like "I can't pay this month RMB 200 for gymmaxx because I paid already for languagemaxx."
A really rich man can't say that his daddy allows or disallows him spendings and a really rich person can't think about 200 yuan more or 200 yuan less (as a monthly spending). :D Do you know that some rich guys in Shenzhen only for a lunch do spend 700 yuan? For example a man who deals with construction tools. This is a really rich man. He spends 600-700-800 per lunch and will never say that he is wondering or hesitating how to spend 200 yuan. :D :D Needless to say he will never say what his father, mother, grandfather, grandmother or uncles think about his spending. :)
You just look poor in the eyes of the people like me who really met and dealt with rich men.
A construction worker pays 700 yuan for lunch? wow first time I heard of it. But to people who really knows about how to spend money he is just an idiot....
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Brocel, respect for your languagemaxxed status. You know two Chinese dialects, English and Japanese. Some of your English words and expressions are higher level than mine. But in this response you misunderstood Alexa's. I think 100% she meant a man that has construction workers or operates construction business like providing workers or diggers, cranes, trucks, tools.
Of he earns 6000 per day spending even 2/3 isn't a problem because he saves 2000 a day. In 30 days he saves 60 000. Not an idiot.
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I told him the man deals with construction tools, and Zhang took it as a construction worker. Okay, my bad. The man owns several machines and other stuff for producing cement, digging, building, etc. I am not familiar with the details. As he says he rent them to companies and charges them sums like 10 000 yuan per day.
If in a month he has 10 successful days it makes 100 000. And if he spends 20 times 700 yuan in restaurants it's just 14 000 yuan which is reasonable for a rich man like him. This shows his richness ability and the women can't consider him as stingy, 小气鬼. But Zhang shows the opposite impression. Because only poor people can say "This month I can't spend 200 yuan."
Even tho you're rich and even tho girls believe it, if you tell them you think about 200 yuan spending they have to be like "What a cheap man!" I adore your reasonable saving money attitude but being too stingy and at the same time rich is disgusting for the females and some males. They expect you to be more 大方的.
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Why he didn't get angry to you when you told him the same what I do? Because he knows you have friends in Shanghai who may meet him and check if he is really that tough offline? ;)
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Because people like us will not allow him to insult, threaten and so on! We will report him to the PSB, police and so on at once!!!
I hope I don't meet him face to face! I am not sure I will be able to control myself!
And some women's husband's or boyfriends will surely attack him of he continues to be such an abnormal annoying person and/or he will just end up in some jail (prison)!
Avoid him!!!
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The insane and criminal person is posting some comments in my YouTube channel the same as nothing happened here. Because I don't want to communicate with him even there (regardless of how useful are the comments for the development of your videos) I plan to delete the ones that I don't like there and that provoke answers but repost them here:
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@BJAdvancedEducation
1 hour ago
Well, since you know how to educate Philosophy and since you are now in Cambodia where Buddhism is the most popular religion, you can give it a shot to teach people there Buddhism and as I can foresee you will make a fortune from it!
I think you are encyclopedic but you don't know how to apply your knowledges for your real life which makes you fall victim to the bad thinking like a typical Chinese student's one, viz, you only know how to apply your knowledges well for your exams!
And when you are famous for teaching Buddhism courses well, you will be a Guru whose good reputation is spread out the whole SEA, where everywhere is Buddhism the most popular culture particularly Tailand, which can make you way richer than you are currently. Another pathway to becoming rich.
You have to be mindful of every possibility of you being able to become rich irl instead of just maintaining and spiting why your father relinquished his apartment to his lover instead of you. I know it sounds very unempathic though. When you are rich enough, buy the apartment from her and it will become yours and then it will become your another source of income.
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And this one:
It's fanciful that human's nature of worshipping strong animals is still retained in that tiger fight(as I reason from the countdown below the title 'It's tiger time' it's the countdown for a tiger fight) is favorred by some people and human will still be intimidated when they are confronting a tiger.
The first person who started the business that utilized this retained nature is the best moral that human's nature can also be utilized to start business and since Evolutionary Psychology is not a popular subject, plunging into it may help you escape(as you have the backgrounds of Anthropology and Sex Psychology) poorceldom and, as the best strategy I can make based upon your current economic status, petting some insects for fights is suggested.
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Yeah, he is hell of a stalker. And how he speaks like you are still good friends. Here he calls you bad names but there trying to give some good advices ;D :D (needless to mention how ineffective and useless are they :D :D :D. For example, the pity sad guy can't remember that MSL doesn't like to work under boss/principal/director/manager and prefers a freelance life.
And the pity sad guy has no idea that the fighting animals gambling is illegal like all the gambling in Thailand and Cambodia for the local citizens)... And "It's Tiger time" is a beer slogan, isn't it? 😄🤣
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Yes, yes... A lot of mistakes, ridiculousness, bad memory demonstrations and so on. I will comment all here when I have more free time.
For now, I only reposted here his two deleted YouTube comments on my channel. Tomorrow or later I will comment all. First because of you, who read here (to tell you exactly the truths) and second, for him, to get some respectful answers.
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" you can give it a shot to teach people there Buddhism and as I can foresee you will make a fortune from it!"
1. I really don't need to communicate with you anymore after I witnessed all you did here.
Stalking me on YouTube and posting there answers with "good advices" when here you are calling me bad names is the top of the schizophrenism!
2. How damaged could be a person's memory if you are telling him several times that you worked many years jobs under different bosses and you already DO NOT want to work in this way; you want to be free and independant and... that person to repeat, and repeat, and repeat how you better leave your freelance life and go back to be a servent to some boss?!
Zhang Jie from Shanghai in Xi-na (Xi-na; Xi Jinping's China), again: I am teaching online for some yuans, I am earning some eurocents from this forum, I am earning some dollars from YouTube, I am earning some satoshis online, I am also earning some riels from recycling trading, I also have around 7% profitable deposits in the Korean banks... You just can't remember a simple fact...
"I think you are encyclopedic but you don't know how to apply your knowledges for your real life which makes you fall victim to the bad thinking like a typical Chinese student's one, viz, you only know how to apply your knowledges well for your exams!"
What a frivolous comparison! It's unthinking...
1. You claim to have millions (and you are very upset, frustrated and even furious if someone doubt your richness). Let's say I believe you. You are a billionaire (I am not joking.) Zhang is a billionaire BUT still has to work a blue collar paper/book related job in some factory. I have only around 0.5% of his money AND I still have got my freedom (not working for any bosses, not living with parents, having enough to pay for my rent, to wear some clothes, to eat some food, to drink some drinks, to pay my internet, to have some things like a computer and a cellphone and to have even some bank deposits.)
So, who is more skillful and capable in life? The billionaire who is dependable of his mom and dad and should work in a factory as an ordinary worker or the poor man like me who is free and can be the master of his own life?
2. For the rest of the naive and low IQ incels and noncels who are reading here: the encyclopedian knowledge isn't always applicable when it comes to earn money. For example, I know that there is a village called "Вещица" in Bulgaria and I know that there are xenorobots, but this knowledge is useless because nobody around cares about these and even if you find a person who is interested in Bulgarian geography or xenorobotics he or she is not necessarily going to pay you for your knowledge. He or she more probably will ask you to pay or lend some money! Yesterday one local person again asked me to for lending him money! I refused of course because I am not trusting anymore after the latest scams (and I don't repeat about them because I am not so obsessed like Zhang to repeat my problems non-stop).
"you will be a Guru whose good reputation is spread out the whole SEA, where everywhere is Buddhism the most popular culture particularly Tailand, which can make you way richer than you are currently. "
The person with the terrible memory. He was told several times that I am an atheist (ignostic) and we even had many anti-religious debates here, but... Zhang again suggests me to deal with religious stuff and being a guru... I am speechless.
For those who want to see, check it: Buddhism debate (https://www.seo-forum-seo-luntan.com/a-forum-for-incels-who-are-normal-people-no-terrorists-no-rapists-no-racists-no-pedophiles-no-haters-and-so-on/the-reason-why-you-should-learn-buddhism-philsophy/#msg50929).
"Another pathway to becoming rich."
1. Zhang, you failed to cooperate with me in making a restaurant in SEA.
You also failed to cooperate with me about the 7% profits bank deposits. (It was simple: Zhang lends money, I make a deposit for one year. Then he gets his money back with 3.5% profit and I keep 3.5%. But nooooo, his mom (which is not a tiger mom!) told him that only the Chinese (in Xi's China!!!) banks are reliable and he can't make deposits in foreign banks! ［Which is a joke knowing the current status of the Chinese politics and economy but... who said that Zhang's family is knowledgeable? They trust Xi and Zhang even calls him "glorious leader" （ https://www.seo-forum-seo-luntan.com/a-forum-for-incels-who-are-normal-people-no-terrorists-no-rapists-no-racists-no-pedophiles-no-haters-and-so-on/the-bad-things-that-have-you-experienced-recently-could-be-not-there-if/msg53335/#msg53335 ）... No comment.］
2. Don't try to compensate your failures with these useless suggestions.
"You have to be mindful of every possibility of you being able to become rich irl instead of just maintaining and spiting why your father relinquished his apartment to his lover instead of you."
Ha! Haha!!!😂 And this is coming from a person who repeats endlessly about his problems?! I am "maintaining and spitting" about my apartment loss because I notice it twice for example... But when Zhang repeats millions of times that he is short or that he is having a "big problem" with Desi who does not believe he is that rich, ohhhhhhhhh then he is right to do so and to annoy you repeatedly!
Can you see how subjective is he?
"I know it sounds very unempathic though."
Zhang you are not a person who has the feeling and the idea of what empathy is. You only egocentricly know yourself (but sometimes you even don't know yourself and what's good to yourself too.) You are totally far from it.
"When you are rich enough, buy the apartment from her and it will become yours and then it will become your another source of income."
Hahahahaha + LOL + ROFL!!!
I don't want even to say "Hello!" to that woman and you are suggesting me to be in some form of business relationship with her, paying her money for my lost apartment and making her richer. Needless to say that if I have money to buy an apartment I don't need an apartment in East Europe when I chose to live in South East Asia and I prefer to have property here.
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Read the first of my answers above for now. About the second one (with that terrible and ridiculous suggestion to organize illegal insect gambling business in SEA!) I will reply and comment later because now I want to take care of my health, earnings and so on. I don't want to become chubby, low T, boyish like and degraded physically and mentally person like the one who stalks me and gives me the frivolous "good ideas".
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I don't wanna comment the freakcel anymore cause I did it already in other 2 threads. But here I just want to say whoa, bro! Your answers to his YT bs rock for real! Respect!
And wow wow, you can copy YT comments?! You are really a skillful webmaster. Not every webmaster knows how to limit the freaks with "read only" partially bans, admins approvals for new accounts and how to delete, copy and paste YT comments!
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Thank you and don't miss this update: http://www.seo-forum-seo-luntan.com/a-forum-for-incels-who-are-normal-people-no-terrorists-no-rapists-no-racists-no-pedophiles-no-haters-and-so-on/an-update-about-zhang-jie-from-shanghai-insanity-and-criminal-acts/
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Yes, totally good and decent respond. But besides this new YouTube insanities don't forget to repost your all QQ's conversations. Let all the truth to be shown here because people should know him well and avoid, report, protect as well as they can. It's a completely insane, dangerous criminal who is also pro-Putinist and pro-Xiist. Stay alerted, be aware and be careful!
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Of course.
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And this one now:
"It's fanciful that human's nature of worshipping strong animals is still retained in that tiger fight(as I reason from the countdown below the title 'It's tiger time' it's the countdown for a tiger fight)"
ROFL 🤣 😂 :D :D :D
1. It's just a clock with Tiger beer advertising!!!
For those who want to know which video Zhang is misinterpreting in this laughable way, check it; take a look:
https://youtube.com/shorts/af73XbpAqw8
:D
2. No tiger fights around!
Once again: 1. It's a clock that shows the time, not a countdown tool! 2. The tiger sentence is about the "Tiger" beer (a Singaporean brand. (More about it: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_Beer (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_Beer).)
"The first person who started the business that utilized this retained nature is the best moral that human's nature can also be utilized to start business and since Evolutionary Psychology is not a popular subject, plunging into it may help you escape(as you have the backgrounds of Anthropology and Sex Psychology) poorceldom and, as the best strategy I can make based upon your current economic status, petting some insects for fights is suggested."
Another epic debilism! Read and learn! "Gambling in Cambodia is officially illegal under the 1996 Law on Suppression of Gambling... + "
"Extralegal activities are also widespread outside of the permitted casinos ranging from cockfights and... Most of these activities are controlled by organized crime..."
(Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling_in_Cambodia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling_in_Cambodia)) So? You are suggesting me (the philosopher, sportsman, poet, writer, webmaster and actor) to do illegal gambling and to a criminal?! No wonder, in fact, considering the fact that you are such a low educated, criminally behaving and psychotic incel.
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Precious!!! :D Added there as one of his big problems of this psychotic crimecel: https://www.seo-forum-seo-luntan.com/a-forum-for-incels-who-are-normal-people-no-terrorists-no-rapists-no-racists-no-pedophiles-no-haters-and-so-on/zhang-s-mental-disorders-and-crimes-so-far/msg53551/#msg53551
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Tragicomic...
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Terrible 😞 especially speaking of the posts where he really believes that he drank her liquids or he sees a clock as a countdown timer. The brocel is truly having mental desease. And supporting the Ruscists in their aggressive war against Ukraine and the rest of the free word is just the bottom of the moral degradation!
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Of course. You can't expect anything good from unstable, inconsistent person who easily commit crimes like him. He was very "anti-CCP" and very anti-Xi Jingping (against the Xiism) but now he is praising him, Putin and the Ruscist Russian army...
But back to the funnier topic. Today I uploaded a new clock video. I wrote a special remark about that because I hope this time he (and other lowIQ and/or insane people like him) will not think that it's another "countdown timer" for maybe cuckoo birds fight ;D (last time a Tiger beer clock was seen as a coundown timer for tiger fights! :D... So, who knows, this time if a cuckoo clock is seen as another countown timer about/for birds fight... :D).
To make it clear for some people who are not very familiar with the clocks -- it's a wall clock (cuckoo clock) not a countdown timer or something else 😂. Mentioning it because about my "Tiger" beer clock video, where it's shown another wall clock (electronic clock), a person commented that he sees it as a countdown timer for tiger fights 😅... So, this time, clearly telling this to all of you: it's not a countdown timer, it's a typical wall clock.😊
Enjoy: https://youtube.com/shorts/po_Balu9mgQ
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Muahaha 😆 😂 yeah that's a good remark. :D :D :D :D :D ;) :D