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Author Topic: What cause the inconsistency of the rates of the same guy by natives&non-natives  (Read 1863 times)

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And you started to believe him that the aesthetics is something like the math, the statistics, the physics?  :-\

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Can you explain how he justifies some statement like "Long hair is prettier than short hair."? Where are the roots, the bases of the judgement?
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Bro, be frank: do you decided to believe in the "objective aesthetics" just because the "pro guy" rated you higher and better? ;)
Разбирач, играч, предприемач. Какво повече от това? ;)

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Bro, be frank: do you decided to believe in the "objective aesthetics" just because the "pro guy" rated you higher and better? ;)
You know how irritating misprojection is right :P. I believe him just because what he said makes sense.
Also he rated me(5.5/10), pretty much up there with others' rates.

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Can you explain how he justifies some statement like "Long hair is prettier than short hair."? Where are the roots, the bases of the judgement?
Oh sorry, I forgot to say that, yeah it's true whether a trait is good or not 'depends on individual', but an aesthetic expert can rate and evaluate your face very accurately. He himself also said that indeed aesthetic evaluation couldn't even be 'right'. It's really nonsensical to claim your evaluation is right. What he managed to construe is actually that an expert can evaluate your face most comprehensively and most detailedly(non-experts ignore many of your facial details as another contribution to the errors of rate).

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I learned aesthetics in university. It is a philosophy's part. Our professor cited a clever man who said: the pretty or beautiful is: white, smooth, small, light (not heavy), right? Well then, the ideal is an egg! 🥚
 What constitutes an expert when it comes to the faces? You can be an expert who states that Mona Lisa is the best but when most of the modern men do not like her, this aesthetic criterion is becoming useless. There is not expertise when it comes to tastes. If you think a girl is ugly but the experts rate her "ptetty" it's not making her really pretty to you. The aesthetics world is generally freedom of choice. The key is to know what tastes dominate right now and to try to become something like that (for example if you live amongst tribal people who like fat belly, you can afford a beer belly.)
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I learned aesthetics in university. It is a philosophy's part. Our professor cited a clever man who said: the pretty or beautiful is: white, smooth, small, light (not heavy), right? Well then, the ideal is an egg! 🥚
 What constitutes an expert when it comes to the faces? You can be an expert who states that Mona Lisa is the best but when most of the modern men do not like her, this aesthetic criterion is becoming useless. There is not expertise when it comes to tastes. If you think a girl is ugly but the experts rate her "ptetty" it's not making her really pretty to you. The aesthetics world is generally freedom of choice. The key is to know what tastes dominate right now and to try to become something like that (for example if you live amongst tribal people who like fat belly, you can afford a beer belly.)
I don't think you should confuse philosophy with real aesthetics.

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 In Europe, in the biggest South-Eastern University the major Philosophy included Logic, Aesthetics, Political philosophy, Eastern philosophy, etc. You didn't know the Aesthetics is a philosophical part?
 Check this, from the Chinese Wikipedia: "美学(英语:aesthetics),或依原意可译作感觉学,是以对美的本质及其意义的研究为主题的学科,乃哲学其中一个重要分支。" https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/美学 See? "an important branch of philosophy." The so-called "real aesthetics" is nothing but the part of the theoretical aesthetics, i. e. not that deep and not that complicated. Usually based on current trends (fashions).
 Think about it: why before there were fans of the Ruben's type females (comparable with the Tang dynasty's aesthetic when it comes about bodies and looks): , . Well? Aesthetics...
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Good examples! :D
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Oh, yes and yes.
Разбирач, играч, предприемач. Какво повече от това? ;)

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