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The Metapill
« on: September 04, 2022, 02:58:20 AM »

Metapill


  Here we often talk about the only philosophical and scientific pill theory (which is beyond all these bluepill, redpill, blackpill, whitepill, purplepill, pinkpill...) the metapill theory. Read about it here: Metapill theory explained.
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Re: The Metapill
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2022, 04:01:39 AM »
I think so, the metapill is the best.
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Re: The Metapill
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2022, 02:48:32 AM »
A comment from Vortex in saidit.net is that Selfimprooooovers (i. e. self-improvers) can f*ck off. The same person who thinks that this international omnilogy forum is an autism forum (see more there). Maybe he's some of those teens who just lazily want to be in relationship but without any improvement.

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Re: The Metapill
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2022, 02:52:51 AM »
 All those black-pillers are too pessimistic and/or too lazy to accept the metapill (and redpill) truth that once you're not a Chad you can't afford just to lay down and complain if you really want to have a girlfriend. If you're fat, you're going to lose weight; if you're low IQ one you need to study hard; if you can change something and become a better version of yourself, then you should do it, otherwise it's really over.
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Re: The Metapill
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2022, 02:15:04 AM »
That rude and not clever Vortex tried to explain it in this way. Funny but you should know it:

He means all this self-improvement is a "shi*t" because for him this is only "Selfimprovement for pussy sake" and thus is "pathetic". He states that blackpilled pessimism that "If you need to selfimprove for relationships that means it's over." and "Faking your own character whole life." It's not rational at all because the self-improvement is useful not only for getting females but also for your own sake. Plus, if your character is "just be lazy" you better fake it and be something different!

Also he made this popular mistake to say that "I never saw people in relationshits that finished some sort of courses for it or spending money on fashion clothes just to enter dating market. But I saw a dozens of men with sharp haircut, style, fit, hobbies/shower/friendly/whatever shit you'll find on dating advices that can't attract woman or simping (aka money for attention)."

He can't understand that exactly these who don't need fashion, courses and so on are the Chads and the lucky normies... he can't understand that if you're an incel you have to add a lot to yourself to have at least 20% of the chances of the normies and Chads.

And his funny idea:
"Sooner they will realize it, sooner we get our bros back to whatever they like, sooner huge amount of men will get in peace and harmony of not seeking whore's attention. Could it be whitepill? Coal burned into ash."

Sounds like a political platform. ;D

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Re: The Metapill
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2022, 02:26:47 AM »
 As I already explained -- if you're poor, you need at least a job. You can't just say "I saw billionaires and they don't work, hence the job isn't useful". Here is exactly the same but many of these blackpillers are too pessimistic and/or not enough educated to understand the simple relation: "If you're not a Chad and you have less attractiveness, you should improve yourself." At least they can see how well are changing the ugly women via some makeup and to get the analogy; they also can see those ascended incels (ex-incels) who ascended via hitting the gym, improving their status and so on.
 It's not 100% over if you have to self-improve yourself, it's 100% over if you don't try. Simple, easy to get truths (facts) but for brain-washed and/or not intelligent blackpillers it's too hard to understand.
 The more you listen, read, believe that "It's over!", "Blackpill is the best because it is saying that you will never change for good!" and other real sh*tness of this type, the more you're really making your chances 0%. The blackpill may be valid only for those 0/10 and 1/10 incels and still, even they, after serious -maxx (in some cases -- surgeries and geomaxx may be necessary) will still have a chance. The blackpill makes even people who're 5/10 to believe they're truecels... So sad! They just make the things worse.
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Re: The Metapill
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2022, 01:34:44 AM »
Haha, good but you should know that some stupid bros call it just a "bluepill". ;D Very stupid incels everywhere. Gosh...
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Re: The Metapill
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2022, 02:24:24 AM »
 Yes, there are some low-IQed incels who will do that. An example is a recent rude one who instead to understand that "meta" unites all the good things from the existing pills and uses a scientific and philosophical method to make it easier for the incels to deal with the inceldom in a human and right, clever way, he commented like a total barbarian with "Bluepilled garbage from a 10 IQ braindead subanimal."

My answers to this terrible incel:

1) It's not bluepilled, it's metapilled. Not everything that isn't your favorite pessimistic and killing blackpill is a "bluepill".
2) It's not garbage because it's science and materialistic philosophy based, written by a professional incelologist.
3) 10 IQ is obviously your IQ. I am a graduated philosopher-anthropologist (with a Master's on "The Different Aspects of the Love").
4) Subanimal can be someone like you just because the animals are better than a person like you in many ways (like they'll not criticize something that they don't understand; they're not calling an educated pro and his work "10 IQ" and "subanimal" and so on).
 If you're still a kid or a pre-teen/teen there is a hope later to understand that this kind of behavior isn't good at all. But if you're 18+ and behave like this, there is no hope for you and better stay an incel for life! Don't reproduce your ignorance, aggression and stupidity!
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Re: The Metapill
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2022, 02:30:29 AM »
Maybe he's some troll or brain damaged via drugs and/or alcohol. It's a waste of time to answer to so ignorant people who only know how to spread hate, insults and to make their life and others' worse. But because it may bring us some more visitors, okay.

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Re: The Metapill
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2022, 02:32:58 AM »
Maybe someone crazier than Ellior Rodger, I don't know. But I gave him a link. Let him has a chance to read and to reflect about the inceldom. He has right to understand that the blackpillism has a better alternative which is the metapillism (or at least the redpillism). 8)
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Re: The Metapill
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2022, 02:40:25 AM »
I really feel sorry that guys like him make all of the incels (including angels like me) to look terrible in the eyes of the noncels.
 :( :o :(
But we're good. Let's give him a chance, to see if he's right at least about something. I found something about his life philosophy: https://saidit.net/s/Incels/comments/a3bh/success_is_only_for_successfulborn_people_this_is/. How do you think about it? Comments, please?
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Re: The Metapill
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2022, 02:41:41 AM »
I really feel sorry that guys like him make all of the incels (including angels like me) to look terrible in the eyes of the noncels.
 :( :o :(
But we're good. Let's give him a chance, to see if he's right at least about something. I found something about his life philosophy: https://saidit.net/s/Incels/comments/a3bh/success_is_only_for_successfulborn_people_this_is/. How do you think about it? Comments, please?

I'm going to take a look and to comment sentence-by-sentence. I am objective and if there is something valuable or/and true, I will admit it.
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Re: The Metapill
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2022, 02:52:45 AM »
I doubt he will be handful to register here and to have a good level controversy with such a great incelologist... but let him a chance! Waiting! Will be so interesting!
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Re: The Metapill
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2022, 02:54:31 AM »
Very bad first impression... how an incel can be so bad and to say so much lies and rude words in only one sentence? He deserves his inseldom. The women should have someone better.

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« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2022, 05:21:59 AM »
 OK, here comes the metapill offtopic: "Is it really unequivocal that "Success is only for successful-born people."?"

 A person nicknamed depression_redditv3 who already attacked rudely the metapill theory and me with "garbage", "braindead" and so on, wrote something called "Success is only for successful-born people. This is unequivocal."
 Let me see is it something useful or not?
 
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Short? Upturned nose? Introverted? Bad memory? "Low IQ"? Unlucky?

No success for you.

 As you notice this is not completely true because there are many short-but-successful people!
 Vladimir Lenin was only 5' 5" (1.65 m). Dani DeVito is even shorter -- 4' 10" (1.47 m), Luka Modrić is
5' 8" (1.72 m), ... There are many examples. The average IQed people will get it at once.

 As you may know many successful people are introverts -- a short list: Larry Page, Mark Zuckerberg, Steven Spielberg, Bill Gates.

 Just an upturned nose and then no success?! Even no need to spend time to comment such a blatant non-sense.

 
 Bad memory and low IQ -- the only two that are mentioned right. These two may be a very big obstacle in most of the cases.

 Unlucky. This is a sort of tautology (saying of the same thing twice in different words): When you're unlucky there is no success for you. And when you're lucky there is success for you. Yes, obviously being lucky means you're already having success and it's a base for more successes eventually.


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You aren't even unsuccessful, you are simply completely locked out of the success game.

 Just because you have some small problems like "I am short." or "I don't have the best nose." doesn't make "out of the game" at all. Only a total pessimist may think so overexaggerating the small problems (which in some cases may turn to be even advantages -- for example, it's useful if you want to be a jockey, if you're short. Another example -- long nose in the West is usually "ugly" but in the far East it's "beautiful").

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It doesn't matter if you name someone who had every disadvantage but still succeeded, that person was still pre-determined to succeed (and therefore merely privileged) while the people who don't were pre-determined to not succeed.

 Ha-ha-ha! "Pre-determined"! Who determines it? The God, the gods, the Karma, the Fate, the Aliens? What is it? A sort of fatalism. There are no scientific proofs that there is something or someone who pre-determines the lives/successes. Only religious people and many low-IQed ones may think that there is something like pre-determination.
 If there is such a thing, we just can sit and wait... and the pre-determinated life is coming to us. Why to bother trying, working?  ;D

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There is no part of the brain that is a general blob: it's all just perfectly following the causes made by the previous atom or set of atoms. A rock can't choose to fall different, but you are exactly the same.

 Obviously the guy never heard of "Free will"... If the brain is like a falling stone, then why I can choose to do or not to do something? For example, he can say "Don't answer me!" and I will answer him or he can say "Tell me this." and I will choose not telling him.
 The atomic level maybe the same but there is difference between the rabbit and the fox (even when atomically they're the same). We and the brains are already another level. There are different levels of reality -- the jellyfish and the lion are made of atoms the same as the water or the Sun... but it doesn't mean that a jellyfish is a sun or a lion is a liquid. Maybe too complicated for him to get it? But I hope there are more educated people around to understand this simple truth.

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What you can do is hope that you are pre-determined to work AGAINST the system, not WITH the system...

 Another fatalism. Useless to comment.

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But you could also be pre-determined to be a touchless F student with zero future. Your grades are determined by amygdala size and mental health, not IQ and hard work.

 Let's ignore the stupid fatalism and to think about this only: the relationship between the gifted people (good amygdala and mental health) and the success in studying. I spent nearly 20 years in teaching. And I know that learning is easier for some people. I also know that the hard work and especially the IQ are important too! For example, you may be gifted in learning math but if your teacher sucks and/or if you're lazy and prefer to play games instead of thinking about the math problems, you're not going to succeed in math at all! At the same time, some not very gifted but hardworking student with a good math teacher will learn the math better than you.
 There is also an example -- the Polgár sisters who were taught by their father since the early childhood to play chess (and even there were no other chess masters in their family) they became chess grandmasters. He just proved that hard work may bring success.
 Here is a very, very, very simple experiment for all of you who don't believe that the efforts are meaningful: only some of you may remember this number instantly -- 1029384756. But try to memorize it every day at least 3 times and after a month most of you will be able to remember it for a long time.

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And being touchless? No need to even comment on why that's pre-determined AKA out of your control AKA not your fault.

 No need to even comment why fatalism is useless and harmful! To claim that there are "touchless" people because of pre-determination shows lack of understanding and/or willing to be lazy and not to try to improve yourself.

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If you are someone with an upturned nose, acne scars, 5'4, NW1-2 early on, bad facial structure etc. then what are you going to do?

 1. Not to care about the nose because this is not a big problem (if it's at all).
 2. To shave it all because there are even skinheads (neonazis) who are considered sexy and they do have girl-friends.
 3. Compensate the bad facial structure and acne scars with better body and skin via diet-maxx and gym-maxx.

 In a sentence: if you're a 3/10 nearcel like that, after maxxing (diet-maxx, gym-maxx, edu-maxx, fashion-maxx, art-maxx, money-maxx) you will be at least a 5/10 normie-tier to 6/10 Bradlite depends on your efforts, luck and genetics.

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Your life will never be like successful people's never like chad's, never like a privileged failed normie's.

 Most of the people aren't Chads or privileged Normans. But still, if you're trying hard (instead to speak "It's over! It's all pre-determined!") then you 100% will see improvements that are coming necessarily! Examples? Doing 100 push-ups a day in several months changes your body (adding up muscles) -- check it out: link to Bing SE. Another example -- even you're not intelligent enough to remember that "27 × 27 = 729", if you review it day by day, a few weeks later you'll remember the correct answer ("729").
 Learning, improving are possible when you really put efforts and believe. If you are a blackpilled pessimist-fatalist, it's really over and better not to be born because you're useless and harmful for yourself and for those who have chances to ascend (if there are no people like you who make them desperate and stop them, killing their reasonable hopes and discouraging them)!

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Even if you were to hypothetically turn your life around, and be a one in a billion case of someone with a horrific situation turning into one of these people... the first 25 years of your life were pure trash. You will always be someone who hasn't hugged before age 25 and this will permanently affect your physiology and psychology.

 Not always. There are people who (after got rich, successful and love-havers) heal their psychology very well and successfully! Of course, if you're too sensitive or psychopathic then, well, you can afford a good psychotherapist and you'll get better anyway.

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Hope for a better tomorrow all you want but all that will happen tomorrow is you will cope and rot. Nothing will change.
 
 It's valid only for those like you, who're even not going to try to maxx! This kind of thinking only minn!

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brb people who have abused you genuinely believe they deserve to live and move on, and even without changing.

 Wrong for many of them because some of them are dying in incidents, others are going to the jails... don't assume that all the bullies are very successful!

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brb you will never find the home addresses of your childhood bullies no matter how hard you try.

 Is it a problem?! Don't you have a better and more meaningful to do with your life than to face your childhood bullies (which, well at least some of them, maybe already dead)? I know one who was killed in the jail. And another one who die in a war. So?... But, yeah, maybe it's too hard for your brain to get it now. Take your time.

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brb trying for years and still out-competed by chad in any sport or esport, in studying etc.

 Hahaha!  :) ;D  Esports are full of Chads, huh? There are plenty of so-called nerdy boys, incels, nearcels there (and it's normal because they spend most of their time in front of the computers, instead of go running, training some sport, etc.)
 About the sports, well, there are Chads who maybe better than you, but what if you're not numer one?! If there are 3 Chads in your class + 16  Normans and 3 nearcels like you, what if you are number 3 (you can overpass at least one of the Chads). There are plenty of successful sportsmen who're beating Chads (imagine some of those ugly MMA fighters for example -- not every MMA fighter is ugly but there are MMA guys who're just Norman-tiers or nearcel-tiers... and still they can beat up most of the Chads around).
 About the studying? Are you serious?! There are clever Chads but what I see, well, most of the clever boys aren't Chads at all. As you noticed most of the Chads are suitable for sports and when they start to spend more and more time, energy and efforts on sports, well, then many of them just can't combine it with the studying... there are some unique Chads who're really good at everything but how many %?
 It's a rare combination "Chad + very good at study". I guess not more than 20% of the Chads are capable to manage the sports + the intellectual development very well.
 
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while you're a 5/10 and haven't hugged in your 20s

 Elliot Roger number 2!  ;D LOL! That psychopath was so young and even didn't wait until he's 30 (when he'll look more masculine) and, of course, was too lazy to gymmaxx (he was able to become a Changlite + his statusmaxx, which was a 100% sure thing, he could ascend in many places even in USA itself!) Do you think that 20s is the end? There are people who ascend when they're 40+! At least via geo-maxx and social-maxx they do. Want examples?

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brb you're constantly under depression, anxiety, OCD etc. while every second of chad's life is a peaceful trance state since he has never been bullied once

 Wrong. Most of the incels even don't know that they're incels (there are incels in denial, many bluepilled people and so on). There are also those redpilled (and recently, thanks to me, metapilled) incels who do not stop self-improving themselves instead of just being cry babies with fatalistic and pessimistic views.
 And, yes, by the way, even the blackpillers do admit that the Chads are not more than 5%-10% of the population. Look around you, most of the people are average (Normans). The incels and the Chads are minorities. The Brads are a minority too. The GigaChads are the smallest minority. And all the Normans (normies), there are plenty of nearcels among them. It's not that easy for them too. The females are getting more and more pickier nowadays. Many normies are soon-to-be incels too.
 
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brb infinities of suffering and abuse throughout history have amounted to nothing, it only serves chads and winners of the system because it is fundamentally absurd.

 Absurd? Yes, if you believe in "Just word". The world isn't perfect and the live is a struggle. So, if you're struggling you have some chances, if you give up, you have nearly 0 chances.
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