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He looks very well for a present Chinese young man. Can't see what's his incel problem?... I don't know, the only things I can think of are these 3.
  • Serious mental issues (like he's afraid to go to talk to a girl). But this can't be a problem with the nowadays technologies which allows you to chat with females online, right?
  • Too short. He never mentioned how tall is he. Maybe he feels too shy to say his height because he's a shortcel or because he's a tallcel and he's afraid some incels will accuse him of being a fakecel.
  • Standardcel, maybe? There are some girls to like him but he's not liking them back.

But one is sure, if in China (or elsewhere in East Asia) he can't be seen as a boyfriend material, sorry to say it, but in the Western world he's "it's over"ed. ;D Sorry for being so direct but the honesty is the best policy, you know...
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Very good looking! Most of the Chinese will jealous that they even doesn't look a half good as you are. Why do you complain? Are you short or something? Height?
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Don't insist asking about height. He was asked already many times and he keeps this in secret. It is his right not to say.
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Very good looking! Most of the Chinese will jealous that they even doesn't look a half good as you are. Why do you complain? Are you short or something? Height?
What? I think that is too exaggerated ???

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Let's see who is too exaggerating   ;) I typed "上海大学生" ("Shanghai university students") to find people who're from the same area and the same age generation as our dear Dotato (Zhang) and here are some: . The first male looks not more than 3/10 and he's fat, the second is too slim and better looking so, he's around 4/10 and the third one is short, fat, not  very handsome, but more good looking than the first one, so we can rate him as 3.5/10.
 
So, don't you think that most of the Chinese (except the models, actors and influencers) are really not that good looking as you are? You're, for China, at least 5.5/10 to 6.5/10. If you decide to improve your body seriously,  you will reach a 7/10 to 8/10.

Your problem (if we ignore your height which we all see is a secret) isn't the looks. Your problem is mental (so if you're really an incel, highly likely you're a mentalcel). And I will prove it: I sent you 2 PMs but you didn't answer even one. Let's say you don't like me but you could just answer something like "I see, sorry excuse me, not interested in this chat." or "I am very busy." as 99% of the excusers. ;D But you didn't. Every noncel (even a 4/10 Norman when receives a message will show at least some interest but your mental shyness or something stops you to experience even the communication). Then what? Even you're a Chad the girls will try to chat but when you don't answer twice, "Ohhhh, sorry Chad, there are other Chads out there!" ;D

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I am never wassting an opportunity to answer. Even when it's something that makes me such a losercel you can read the losercel story here, I am trying to communicate (socialmaxx).

You bro, better don't restrain yourself of communication because you're not an uglycel. You're a normal looking to good looking man (depends where on Earth you live) so I think all you need firstly is to socialmaxx (and add some more gym work when you're ready. You are already monemaxxed which is cool).
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Errr, wait. Your case is really the opposite -- you're needy, willing, socialmaxxing at max, no serious mental issues buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut... errr, not being rude but truth is you're far from attractive. As it was said already, you should know your place and even not trying to send photos to women because all you can get is disgust and disappointment from them: first make your manlet-tier body stronger (we see you gymmaxx but not even 20% there!), think how to get at least a middle paid job if not lucky with businesses (or win the lottery  ;) ) and then dare to be so brave with the women. If you was handsome at least like Dotato (Zhang) okay, do it, but you're an uglycel and a poorcel, and not enough gymmaxxed, so for now, know your place and maxx it better!

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This makes me feel I want to cry but it's true. I am too losercel (looks, body and status, money) so I should at least work harder and harder on my body improvement if others are not achievable. This brocel is the opposite -- he got it all: looks, status, money... just some gymmaxx and more socialmaxx and he's there.
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That's part of the problem. The wish being a "cry baby", easy self-pity and giving up. Good luck to both of you, especially the to loser here!

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So right. Thank you very much for the valuable lessons!
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Some comments about your philosophy work
« Reply #85 on: January 18, 2023, 04:02:52 AM »
 And, as I promised, I'll comment it (the philosophy work of Mr Zhang).

 1. There are different art definitions. Some of them, well, pretty strange.
 2.  That "imbalance" word. I think, maybe because of the computer translation, but sounds a bit incorrect. Maybe you meant "difference" or "additional reality", "additional elements", "fictional elelments"?... You may explain, if you want, what did you mean or write the original Chinese philosohy word. It's interesting, really.
 3. About this: "That is to say, the artistic content expressed by artists in a certain form cannot be guaranteed to be exactly what the artists originally thought in their consciousness. There may be some "loss" of the content to be expressed." is true and also it's true that every person will perceive it in his or her own way. And then, the artists' ideas are even more far (in the understanding). That's one of the reason why it's difficult for the common people to communicate every time in the right, understandable (really understanding each other) way.
 4. Yes, the form and the content. This is a dialectical way of seeing the things.
 5. About this "...in the end, viewers of art may receive information that may be processed differently": yes, but when it comes to simple things, usually, it's without problem. For example, if you draw a horse, most of the people will see it as a horse, not as a frog, grains, car, letter or something else.
 6. About this: "The so-called "thousand audiences have a thousand Hamlets" is the best portrayal of this phenomenon. It is impossible for us to guarantee that the content expressed in art will not be "distorted" in the eyes of the appreciators. Of course, this will also be affected by the artist's art form and artistic level, but we must not forget that the appreciators themselves are also one of the determinants of art content." Sure, this process is bilateral (artists-audience).
 7. About " In today's society, artists create art only because of money and fame." -- maybe there are still some who create art because of the art (especially the rich and already popular artists who don't need to earn much more money and fame; also some artists who really love the art.)
 To be continued...  :)
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More about the philosophy of art
« Reply #86 on: January 18, 2023, 04:59:58 PM »
 Let's continue it with the eighth point:
 8. About "Art requires not only creativity and imagination, but also an "independent personality"." It's the ideal art. There are many artists who're just servants and they have to work for the propaganda or for the ones who pays them.
 9. " Isn’t this a kind of sadness?" Yes, it is, but this is the reality.
 10. "If your artistic expression is limited by other people, you are not an artist, you are just a clown in a circus - led by the emotions of the audience. Don't forget that life is also an art. How many people can "live for themselves, die for themselves"?" I do agree that this isn't art for the art, free art, etc. but it's also a sort of art. You should be really good to be able to satisfy what others want. Even you're a propaganda slave artists, still, you should know how to paint, draw, write, otherwise, they'll just choose another one and you, probably, should search for a non-art job. This is the capitalism.
 11. "As human beings, the creator endowed us with senses..." Creationism? Oh, no. Anti-science, sort of...
 To be continued...
 
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High IQcel! Cool! I like this art philosophy essay. 100% honest opinion, brocel. Good work!
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More comments about the philosophy of art
« Reply #88 on: January 20, 2023, 03:36:50 AM »
 And let me continue with some more comments about the philosophy of art here.
 12. " the sun and the moon" is only from the human's Earth perspective. From a bigger one, there are more moons in the Solar system so the Earth's moon isn't something unique as the Sun.
 13. "the sun, the moon, the sky, the earth, the mountains, and the waters in these phenomena are all individuals, and similar to these Individuals appear in pairs with other individuals" is sort of strange. Where are these so-called "pairs"? Sometimes there are like day-night or summer-winter, but usually, there aren't.
 14. "The same is true for heaven, earth, mountains, and water." The heaven? The one with the singing angels inside or that one with the virgins? ;) ;D And you think you're not a religious person after all?
 15. The balance is a good point but also there is imbalance too.

 To be continued...
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 16. "partially balanced and partially unbalanced" -- yes, this is what I was thinking and said already. The imbalance is also an important point!
 17. "the presented scenarios are just a corner of reality" -- they are. And it's not a problem, as far as it gives enough true pictures's information. I mean that there is a certain threshold.
 18. "It's like observing a leopard with the naked eye. Can you see the top, bottom, left, right, and even all organs and internal organs of the leopard at the same time from one angle?" -- That's right but as far as we know (see; understand) that it is a leopard (not a horse or a lizard) then the details (form) isn't important once the content is rightly perceived.
 19. "This is because my painting level was too low at that time, which severely limited the expression of artistic content. " -- A good point. This is what is talent (ability) about.
 To be continued...
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