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She said I was 'cute', but not 'sexy'.

 You see? A rare honest and frank girl. If you was a muscle guy (in Chinese -- 肌肉男), she will say that you're at least a bit sexy. Think what she may say to this man: .
 Even very ugly males, when they're having muscles, may add some sexy-ness to their looks. (Only those girls who like 娘, feminine ones, will not notice a good, muscular, shredded body). As a Chinese man said: "If you want to be attractive, you should be one of these: handsome, rich or with 6 packs ( well-developed abdominal muscles)."  8)
Thx a lot! I really like her because she is really much of a heartwarming girl!
Btw, I forgot to show you my own philosophical works. They are writtin in Chinese but I used google translate(I am too lazy to translate them myself...).
I excerpted part of my whole works(though I only completed 13 sections lol). Take them if you are glad to leave them if you don't like them:
Once people talk about art, almost no one will feel strange. From small folk songs, folk dances, folk paintings, etc., to popular songs, ballet, gouache paintings, etc., they are basically arts that we are familiar with. At present, our definition of art is generally a high-level activity in which human beings express their emotions and thoughts in some form. It is true that this definition is very appropriate, but I think it is still not precise enough. At least in the philosophical system described in this book, art is a The definition of door activity is relatively vague. We need to know that any art comes from real life, and no art is created out of nothing out of real life. The reason is that art is the product of human brain consciousness, and consciousness cannot be separated from objective substances. You don't need to copy the elements of reality mechanically.
When it comes to the consciousness of the human brain, I think of the "thought" and "balance of thought" that I explained earlier. Yes, it is not difficult to see that there is a certain overlap between art and my previous exposition about thought and the balance of thought. However, the content displayed in art is not completely a copy of real life content, so we cannot say that the ideas of the artists who create art are completely balanced. For example, to draw a few comic strips, I will draw a scene of a track and field athlete running on the track as an example. First of all, the outline of the human body line, structure, proportion, color and other elements is the primary element. Then, we have to start to outline the various details of the athletes when they run-the eyes are full of high fighting spirit, passion for competition and desire for victory. The sweat is as follows Dripping like rain, breathing as quickly and violently as swallowing clouds, hair blowing back in the wind like reeds by the lake, etc. - these are naturally masterpieces of the artist's balance between thought and reality. However, in order to highlight the fast running speed of an athlete, some painters will add a few horizontal bars behind him to express the meaning of speed (usually the left or right side of a certain two-dimensional plane), which is naturally an imbalance between thought and reality For example, when writing novels with ups and downs, ordinary novels have the purpose of exposing and even criticizing the social status quo, so the content of it is naturally a portrayal of reality, but the reason why the novel is called a novel is naturally impossible to be completely copied like a video The specific content in real life must be added with the elements created by the author himself, which is also a manifestation of the imbalance between thought and reality; songs, dances, and musicals, of course, needless to say, the elements of the imbalance between thought and reality are even more overwhelming enumerate. Obviously, the thoughts of artists are not completely balanced with the individual (collective). However, through the above examples, we can conclude that art is a high-level expressive activity in which the creator's thoughts and the individual (collective) are partially balanced and partially unbalanced. Maybe readers with careful thinking will ask questions: Aren't documentaries, videos, narratives, etc. completely balanced? Of course not. First of all, let’s take the documentary as an example. Assuming that the documentary does not have all kinds of artistic processing like the TV programs, but simply presents the scenes that people see with the naked eye to the audience, then we must know that no matter how realistic it is, the presented Scenarios are just a corner of reality. You cannot discern all the points, lines, and surfaces of an individual (collective) from a specific angle, a specific field of view, a specific lighting condition, and other optical factors. It's like observing a leopard with the naked eye. Can you see the top, bottom, left, right, and even all organs and internal organs of the leopard at the same time from one angle? Obviously, no matter how you observe, you can only glimpse a corner of the individual (collective), there will always be large or small deviations, which is not a balanced expression. The same is true for videos, records, etc. No matter how realistic art is, it will always be It is impossible to achieve a complete balance with the individual (collective), and it will always lead to partial imbalance because it can only peek into a corner, but the degree may be different.
Since art is the product of the partial balance and imbalance of artists' thoughts, the content expressed by nature is not completely balanced in the individual (collective), just like a water pipe without a water purifier. Still not pure water. However, we need to be aware that the content expressed by art may not be in balance with the artists' own thoughts, that is to say, the artistic content expressed by artists in a certain form cannot be guaranteed to be exactly what the artists originally thought in their consciousness There may be some "loss" of the content to be expressed. First, the art form itself may restrict the content of expression. For example, if you want to expose the specific atrocities committed by the Japanese army in the Nanjing Massacre, there are obviously restrictions through musicals, because the musicals themselves pursue elegance and nobleness and the audience’s expectations for musicals, simulating the stage as a bloody battlefield It is obviously contrary to its essence. This will inevitably lead to the fact that even if the artists who design musicals recall the various atrocities committed by the Japanese army in their minds, due to these two factors, they will not completely display the scenes recalled in their minds on the stage of the musical; secondly, the artists themselves Artistic level also affects the expression of artistic content. I once fell in love with comics, and I also suffered from depression during that time, and even though I was depressed, it was only a month or two since I started drawing comics, so I couldn’t express my thoughts What I think is completely expressed on the drawing paper, and the content expressed is also very vague, so that people who read it can half-read and half guess what my state of mind was at that time. This is because my painting level was too low at that time, which severely limited the expression of artistic content. The same thought content, the content expressed by me and a professional cartoonist, the content of the latter is much smaller than mine because of the limited artistic level, and I have to cut it out because I can’t draw well. Paint what you want to paint; in the end, viewers of art may receive information that may be processed differently. The so-called "thousand audiences have a thousand Hamlets" is the best portrayal of this phenomenon. It is impossible for us to guarantee that the content expressed in art will not be "distorted" in the eyes of the appreciators. Of course, this will also be affected by the artist's art form and artistic level, but we must not forget that the appreciators themselves are also one of the determinants of art content.
In the final analysis, the formation process of art is basically the same as the formation process of a balanced system: deconstruction, assignment, calculation, verification (possibly). For example, in the example of drawing track and field athletes I mentioned earlier, the painter must first deconstruct the athlete's movements, proportions, posture, expression, etc., which is deconstruction; For the specific situation, after the basic description of the human body is basically completed, a few horizontal bars (indicating fast speed), bean big sweat, torch-like eyes, etc. will be added. This is actually "assignment" - further Use a brush to describe the degree; then, after drawing all the elements in the painting, you have to name the painting, select a journal for publication, wait for others to evaluate, etc. This is the process of "calculation"-analysis as a whole The specific situation of the individual (collective) is usually expressed as the ultimate goal of the formation process of a certain balanced system; needless to say, the final verification work. However, the verification here may also precede the "calculation" step, which needs to be discussed according to the situation: if the "calculation" step is preceded, then, as the name suggests, the painters will perform the verification of the painting after the painting is completed, adding bricks and tiles, finishing touches, and removing redundancy. If it is one step later than the "calculation", it is generally done by others after the painting is evaluated, and then the verification work is performed by oneself. There are many forms of art. I will use painting as an example to explain it. Presumably readers can understand the meaning of my explanation. Other forms will not be repeated, because they are basically the same.
I also need to mention separately that the expression of artistic content may also be affected by the intention of the artist to make art. In today's society, artists create art only because of money and fame. There are countless situations, and it has even become a common phenomenon. At this time, even if we take a step back and say that some of them really have fat in their stomachs, I am afraid that under the influence of interests, they will no longer pay attention to the sincere expression of ideological content, and instead express what the appreciators are willing to appreciate. Understand the content, and I am completely led by the nose by the admirers. I often say that art requires not only creativity and imagination, but also an "independent personality". Why? I always believe that the intention of art is to express what the artist wants to express, not what the audience wants to see. We fiddle with the paintbrush on the drawing paper, our limbs on the stage, and the mouthpiece in front of the microphone. We work hard and continuously, but not for ourselves, but for the audience. Isn’t this a kind of sadness? What is an artist? A person who is proficient in artistic expression. If your artistic expression is limited by other people, you are not an artist, you are just a clown in a circus - led by the emotions of the audience. Don't forget that life is also an art. How many people can "live for themselves, die for themselves"?


As human beings, the creator endowed us with senses, not just in name only, but to allow us to better observe, understand and analyze the world. In fact, there are a lot of similar phenomena in nature: such as the sun and the moon, the sky and the earth, the mountains and rivers, etc., etc., the sun, the moon, the sky, the earth, the mountains, and the waters in these phenomena are all individuals, and similar to these Individuals appear in pairs with other individuals, is it really just a coincidence? Every individual has existence value, whether it is positive value, or negative value, or both positive and negative, and these individuals obviously have positive value - if there is no sun, the world is dark and desolate, and everything It cannot grow, there is no moon, the world will never have a peaceful day, and all things cannot sleep. The same is true for heaven, earth, mountains, and water. This shows that although I compare the weight of individuals to "weights" to deduce the concept of "balanced system" is very vivid, but the concept of "balanced value" derived from the balanced system may also cause misunderstandings ——Because the concept of "balance" will make people mistakenly think that the total contribution of a pair of individuals in a certain aspect is 0, which is a state of ebb and flow, but in fact, the fusion of pairs of individuals into a collective Sometimes, the balance value of the collective, that is, the balance value contributed by two individuals is not necessarily 0. Therefore, it is very necessary to explain the concept of "balance", and it is also necessary to note that it is quite different from the "balance" in the balance state and balance value.
From the perspective of natural science, "balance" is a physical representation of an object that is still in a static state under the action of multiple forces, and chemically represents a state in which the forward and reverse reaction rates of a chemical reaction are equal, etc.; from the perspective of humanities In economics, it means that the total cost and total revenue are equal, in psychology, it means the interaction between the maturing internal organization and the external organization, and so on. Although the concepts of "balance" in different disciplines seem to have nothing to do with each other, they can be summed up in one word: "balance" means that multiple individuals are in a state of complementarity or competition. Since the collective is composed of individuals, it may be It also introduces the two concepts of complementary and competitive states that individuals have for collectives.
Thus, the concept of "balance" is:
1) Multiple individuals or collectives are in a state of complementarity or competition.
2) Balance does not mean that the total balance value of multiple individuals or collectives is 0, it is not a value, but a certain state of multiple individuals or collectives. Balance is essentially state.
3) The purpose of balance is to make up or not to make up for the rights that one individual among multiple individuals does not have over the rest or all of the individuals, or it may play a role of "restriction" in order to ensure the availability of individuals from a certain perspective— — That is, to prevent a certain individual or certain individuals from causing the remaining certain individual or certain individuals to be in a state of surpassing or being surpassed due to the balance value.
4) Balance can be interpreted from multiple angles. For multiple individuals, the state of balance can be explained from physical, chemical, economical, psychological, etc. levels.
5) Balance is impossible for a single individual because: 1) The purpose of balance is to ensure the availability of the individual, and the individual cannot be isolated, so no matter the specific balance value of the individual is How much, are harming the usability of the individual. So in order to guarantee availability, balancing is impossible for a single individual. 2) The essence of balance is that multiple individuals are in a state of complementarity or competition, and the state of complementarity or competition cannot be achieved by an isolated individual. Therefore, starting from the essence, balance is impossible for a single individual.
Balance has three properties: subjectivity, universality, and relativity.
The subjectivity of balance means that because balance can be interpreted from multiple angles, how to judge whether an individual is in a balanced state is justified by the referee, and there is no uniform and fixed standard, so this characteristic is called subjectivity.
The universality of balance means that since the purpose of balance is to ensure the availability of individuals, and availability is one of the necessary characteristics of individuals according to my interpretation, so each individual needs to be in a specific state of balance, so this characteristic is called universality.
The relativity of balance means that since an individual cannot be in a state of balance in isolation, there must be an individual that is used to refer to the balance to correspond to it, and it has other meanings, that is, the individual is in a state of balance relative to another individual, but It may not necessarily be in equilibrium with other individuals other than these two, so this property is called relativity.
Corresponding to balance is "imbalance", and the concept of unbalance is completely opposite to balance. Next, we will explain:
1) Multiple individuals or groups are in a transcending or transforming relationship
Transcendence relationship, that is, multiple individuals or groups have the same weight but not exactly the same or completely different weights. It is a relationship corresponding to competitive relationship, so individuals or groups must be out of balance.
What needs to be explained in detail is the conversion relationship. From the perspective of the four relationships between individuals or groups, the transcendence relationship has been explained, and the conversion relationship violates the complementary relationship (an individual or group in the conversion relationship owns the rights of other individuals or groups, so it must not be complementary. relationship), and also violates the competitive relationship (one of the individuals or collectives in the conversion relationship partially or completely owns the rights of the other individual or collective, and their rights are not the same, so it must not be a competitive relationship), that is, it violates the balance The two essential relationships of , and from a logical perspective, multiple individuals or collectives must occupy one of the balance and imbalance states, and will not be in the "third state" (it can be proved by counter-evidence: suppose there are multiple individuals Or there is a non-balanced or unbalanced state between groups, that is, there are powers among multiple individuals or groups, because two individuals are either in competition or in a state of transcendence, but the "third state" cannot be in these two states. This relationship, that is, the rights between each other are different or the same, which is a contradiction; similarly, the "third state" cannot be in a complementary or conversion relationship, that is, it has the rights owned by the other party, and neither owning the rights that the other party has, which is another contradiction, and having two contradictions at the same time is enough to show that the assumption cannot be established), therefore, if the relationship of complementarity and competition is violated, it must be in a state of imbalance, and the transcendence relationship has been explained, so from a logical perspective, the conversion relationship is also one of the essential manifestations of imbalance.
2) Imbalance also does not reflect a specific balance value, but reflects a state. Essentially, an imbalance represents a state.
3) The imbalance itself has no purpose, but the imbalance may need to be actively or passively reached a state of equilibrium, and the balance will also enter into an unbalanced state under certain conditions due to the existence form of matter—movement. Therefore, imbalance and balance can be transformed into each other under certain conditions. Balance is the ultimate goal of imbalance, and imbalance is the only way to balance. (The reason is that the fundamental property of matter is motion, so balance can never be an eternal state)
4) Imbalances can also be interpreted from multiple angles. It can be explained from economics, physics, chemistry, society, etc.
5) Imbalance is impossible for a single individual because: 1) The goal of imbalance is balance, and balance is impossible for a single individual. 2) The essence of imbalance is that multiple individuals are in a transcending or transforming relationship, and the transcending or transforming relationship cannot be realized for an isolated individual, so starting from the essence, imbalance is impossible for a single individual.
Imbalance has three characteristics: subjectivity, universality, and relativity.
The subjectivity of imbalance means that because imbalance can be interpreted from multiple angles, how to judge whether an individual is in an imbalanced state is justified by the referee, and there is no uniform and fixed standard, so this characteristic is called subjectivity.
The universality of imbalance means that because imbalance is transformed from balance, and according to the fundamental property of matter—movement, imbalance and balance are constantly transformed into each other without stopping, so multiple individuals or groups can be in a state of imbalance, so it is called This property is universal.
The relativity of imbalance means that since an individual cannot be in an unbalanced state in isolation, there must be an individual who is used to refer to the unbalanced corresponding to it, and it has other meanings, that is, the individual is in an unbalanced state relative to another individual, but It may not necessarily be out of balance with other individuals other than these two, so this property is called relativity.
In addition, since the fundamental property of matter is motion, there is no fixed balance and no fixed imbalance, and the two transform into each other and never stop.


In my worldview, there is no absolutely isolated individual. As long as there is an individual, there must be a certain connection with other individuals, which is determined by the universality of the connection. Therefore, it is inevitable to analyze what kind of connection between individuals and individuals, and it can also make more valuable use of the balance system.
Suppose there is an unknown company, employee A has the four rights of teamwork ability, design project ability, communication and expression ability, and transaction handling ability, employee B has the ability to test projects, love and dedication, business proficiency, and emotional management Four rights. Obviously, employee A has rights that employee B does not have, and employee B also has rights that employee A does not have, so the relationship between individuals is said to be complementary. At this time, there is an employee C, who has the same teamwork ability, design project ability, communication skills and transaction handling ability as employee A, and employee D, who also has the same test project ability as employee B , love and professionalism, business proficiency, and emotion management ability, the relationship between four individuals, employee A and employee C, employee B and employee D, is called competition. At this time, there is an employee E, who not only has the four rights of employee A, but also has more weights than employee A, and an employee F, who not only has the four rights of employee B, but also has the weight of the four rights. Both exceed employee B, then the relationship between E and A is called surpassing, and the relationship between A and E is surpassed. Similarly, F is surpassed by B and B is surpassed by F. At this time, the general manager of this company has a good ability to train employees. He has trained employee A to develop the ability of employee B, and he has also trained employee B to develop the ability of employee A. Employees A and B have benefited from each other. The right between individuals, whether obtained in full or in part, is a relationship between individuals and becomes a conversion.
To sum up, there are four relationships among individuals: complementarity, competition, transcendence, and conversion.
Complementarity is unstable and beneficial.
The instability of complementarity means that due to the variability of the weight of the balance system itself, the weights of multiple individuals may change to a certain extent, which will lead to certain changes in the complementary relationship between individuals, so it is called This property is unstable.
Complementary benefit means that since multiple individuals have rights that they do not possess each other, if the individuals are not in a competitive relationship, the whole composed of multiple individuals has more diverse rights, so the overall existence value The sum will be higher than the sum of its partial individual existence value, this feature is called effectiveness.
Competition has only instability, inevitability.
The instability of competition means that due to the variability of the weight of the balance system itself, the weights of multiple individuals may change to a certain extent, which will lead to certain changes in the competitive relationship between individuals, so it is called This property is unstable.
The inevitability of competition means that because the individual concept itself serves its ultimate existence value, and the existence value, that is, the balance value, the concept itself exists to ensure the availability of the individual, so the balance of the individual Values must compete, a property called coercion.
Transcendence is unstable and inevitable.
The instability of transcendence means that due to the variability of the weight of the balance system itself, the weights of multiple individuals may change to a certain extent, which will lead to certain changes in the competitive relationship between individuals, so it is called This property is unstable.
The inevitability of transcendence means that because the individual concept itself serves its ultimate existence value, and the existence value, that is, the balance value, the concept itself exists to ensure the availability of the individual, so the balance of the individual Values must compete, a property called coercion.
Conversion is unstable, beneficial and relative.
The instability of conversion means that due to the variability of the weight of the balance system itself, the weights of multiple individuals may change to a certain extent, which will lead to certain changes in the complementary relationship between individuals, so it is called This property is unstable.
The effectiveness of conversion means that since each individual has partial or full rights to each other, the same individual before the conversion relationship does not have the right after the conversion relationship, so this characteristic is called efficiency.
The relativity of conversion means that assuming that a certain individual A and B are in a conversion relationship, it means that A has some or all rights of B, and B has some or all rights of A. At this time, a new individual C is introduced, and then B Some or all of the rights owned by individual C are transferred to C, but because the rights converted by individual C and the rights it owns may not necessarily be owned by A, so B and C can be called a conversion relationship, while A and C are not. It must be a conversion relationship, so this feature is called relativity.
In addition, competition is the premise of surpassing, because the purpose of competition is to ensure the availability of individuals, and in order to ensure the availability of individuals, it is necessary to increase or decrease its own weight to achieve the purpose of surpassing other individuals, without surpassing , the meaning of competition will no longer exist, because the weights between individuals will always be the same, and the availability of individuals will never be guaranteed. Therefore, transcendence is the purpose of competition, and competition is the premise of transcendence.
When multiple isolated individuals are integrated into a collection, I would like to call this collection a "collective".
From the origin of the collective, we can know that the weight of a collective is the sum of the weights of all the individuals that constitute the collective, and the balance value of the collective is the sum of the balance values of all the individuals that constitute the collective. When the balance value of an individual is negative, another individual whose balance value is positive and whose absolute value is greater than the absolute value of the individual’s balance value will form a collective with it, then the collective balance value will be positive, that is, the original balance value is The value of the individual with a negative number has been "sublimated"-because of forming a collective with other individuals who can raise its balance value to a positive number, its collective existence has a positive value (the balance value of the collective is positive), and the same is true for the individual In the case where the balance value is positive and another individual whose balance value is negative and whose absolute value is greater than the individual’s balance value is integrated with it, the value of the individual has been “attenuated”—because it is integrated with other individuals that can balance it The value is reduced to a negative number to form a collective, causing its collective existence to have a negative value instead (the balance value of the collective is negative).
Collectives are divisible, subjectivity, and infinite
The subdivision of the collective means that since the collective is composed of individuals, the collective can naturally be decomposed into individuals, and the specific "cutting" means that how many individuals are decomposed from the collective and how many individuals are kept in the collective, or not. Disintegration, or total disintegration, is at the discretion of the referee. When the individuals in the collective are completely decomposed and no individual remains in the original collective, the collective at this time cannot be divided and the collective itself ceases to exist. This property is called subdivision.
The subjectivity of the collective means that since the collective itself has no requirements for the individual, which individual is included in a collective is determined by the referee, but the number of individuals contained in the collective must be > 0, otherwise it is contrary to the concept of collective (collective Composed of individuals, without individuals there is no collective). This property is called subjectivity.
The infinity of the collective means that the number of individuals contained in the collective is unlimited. As long as the number of individuals is greater than 0, the collective can contain infinitely many individuals, but what individuals and how many individuals the collective needs are determined by the referee (collective subjectivity). This property is called infinity.
The logical relationship between the collective and the individual is: the collective contains the individual, and the individual constitutes the collective, and there must be an individual if there is a collective, but there is not necessarily a collective if there is an individual.

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Astonishing! High IQ priceless. 8)
Inceldom sucks...

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Astonishing! High IQ priceless. 8)
Well actually for my philosophical works, 马嘉玲 had good comments on it although she concurred that my works lacked of 'profound' philosophical notions(I found this issue and asked her if she concurred with it she said yeah). My works as I found out lacked of the notions regarding people's minds, but just solely the logical and operational systems of this world. This may be the reason why both of us found out it lacked of profoundities.

I achieved both good and bad comments on them. A Chinese guy told me he could not understand my works but he did not start to read from the first section instead he just read two sections of them and he said my writing significations were too awful to understand.(I think he shoulda started to read from the first section, because I thought I had already written my works in a so neet style and the other readers could understand them, at least to the extent that they did not think I had significational problems in my writing, that everyone could understand the lexical expressions of my works, but might not understand the notions, and admitted it was indeed hard to understand the notions particularly if he/she was impatient to read my works)

I am not sure if you evaluated me as 'high iq incel' after reading my exerpts though, since I never thought google trasnlate was a good translator.

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I'll read it these days (I plan so.) and maybe will comment some of its parts. Thank you for sharing this!
A fan of science, philosophy and so on. :)

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I am glad that you have also philosophical abilities!  8) It's really something!

马嘉伶?  :P Like this Taiwanese singer: https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E9%A9%AC%E5%98%89%E4%BC%B6/19148915  :D

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How interesting, Libgen!
You know, if you ever need someone to talk to about depression (I know how you feel as I once was depressed too after some really bad things happened but I got over it) then I'm someone you can chat with!
Over it.

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How interesting, Libgen!
You know, if you ever need someone to talk to about depression (I know how you feel as I once was depressed too after some really bad things happened but I got over it) then I'm someone you can chat with!
I am surely appreciating your well-meaningness but I don't think a talk can reverse my desperate mindset.
I've also already given up medications and therapies. I've done them for like 6 times but they are all in vain. So I have no expectations to them anymore.

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I am glad that you have also philosophical abilities!  8) It's really something!

马嘉伶?  :P Like this Taiwanese singer: https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E9%A9%AC%E5%98%89%E4%BC%B6/19148915  :D
Well you put a wrong character here and her name is 嘉'玲'.
But thanks for informing me of a new cute singer! I am also surprised she was born in Taiwan.
The only star I know of who was born in Taiwan and then became a migrant into Japan is Jin Chengwu.

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We are in the same team LibGen, I'm used to my depression, it became part of my life and I try to appreciate benefits it has. You have to change the way you approach life, embrace loss of fear and fight weakness. This is middle stage to being strong and self-aware. You see problems but can't carry them. But next you will find how to get stronger. Do what you want and always think how you can achieve something and let your mind take full control of your body and emotions be part of you, this is hard to explain a bit, but depression is just hardship of finding yourself in reality. There is no bottom of life, there is another side under that you need to explore. You may say I'm crazy but I actually live this way and I appreciate that I am not stupid. Embrace sadness, it's the path to see the world in it's true shape.

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@Enlighten3d, what 'crazy', bro?! This is the most high IQ incel post I read in decades! I like especially this about
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There is no bottom of life, there is another side under that you need to explore.
Woooooooooooooow!
Inceldom sucks...

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Some incels are like "Oh ascending is pointless blahblahblah angry suicidal rant" when in fact, they've onle experienced a fraction of life.
Live life the way you want it to be with whoever you love.
Sincerly yours~~~
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Over it.

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You're right. There are those hopeless incels.

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Some incels are like "Oh ascending is pointless blahblahblah angry suicidal rant" when in fact, they've onle experienced a fraction of life.
Live life the way you want it to be with whoever you love.
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Yeah That's why I suggested at least escaping from incel forums like incel.is.
For once I hanged around there and I was impressed by the magnitude of intoxications. Many people there are already in psychotic zone, beyond neurotic zone.

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Yes, it's a good example. But many (most) of the incels communities online are similar and the reason is the ideology focused on the only one (one of the many) theories (the black pill, a.k.a. blackpill), which is the worst possible choice because it's fatalistic (don't see the positive possibilities and thinks that everything is 100% predestined by genetics, fate, society and others), it's a cult (if you have another point of view, even the similar, but more realistic redpill (red pill), you're banned or attacked or called "bluepilled" and so on) which brainwashes the incels in the negative way...
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You're okay. Why do you complain brocel?

Did you have some girlfriends already?
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