[MSL]

Don't underestimate the geomaxx (and the geominn)

  There are many incels (especially the ethnicels) who do complain that in the new countries where they live, they can't find a match. It's not their fault only if they're second generation, third generation, etc., i. e. when they're born there, probably they're citizens of that country, they spend their lives there and it's not that simple just to move away. But it's their fault if they moved to that country as adults who're just first generation, i. e. they made freely this decision to choose exactly the country in question where they can't ascend, i. e. they didn't geomaxx, they, in fact, geominn-ed themselves. For example, there are many Arab, Turkish, Iranian, Afghani, etc. people who can immigrate in a country where the peoples' look is similar or at least not that different (I mean the height, the skin color, etc.) like: Albania, Greece, Macedonia, Bulgaria, Serbia, Montenegro... but they don't want to be in these poorer (compared to the West Europe) countries and tend to go to Germany, Sweden, Great Britain and so on, because they're richer (compared to the East European countries). And then the result is like "Oh, no! I was an incel in Turkey (or Afghanistan, Iran, etc.) and I was mogged there but now in Germany (Sweden, Britain, etc.) the mogging is even higher." And this is normal because the average German, Swedish, British, Danish, Norwegian, etc. is taller, bigger, etc. than the average Arab, Turkish, Iranian, Afghan, etc. In this sense, they chose to geo-minn (geominn) themselves (in terms of ascending; stop being incels) which is like a form of volceling.
 I'll explain it with a concrete example. In the recent months I want to move abroad. A nice person from North Europe invited me warmly to go there.

How interesting. Why not move to ... (and she said her country)?

and I explained her simply like this, which I will repost here to make my point clearer for all of the incels who're willing to geomaxx:

"It's because I like warm places with longer days. I can't accept the cold winters and those long nights. For example, In December, the night in (here I mentioned the capital of her north country) lasts almost 18 hours ...
 Plus, in (her country) I can't buy a flat but in South-East Asia I may buy even a house. And, what's also important -- in (her country) i'll look short and small but in South-East Asia I'll look taller and bigger (compared to the local people). The jobs are also more available in South-East Asia than in (her country). For example, in (her country) nobody will think a person from Bulgaria is a good English teacher but in Thailand or Laos most people will value me just because I am white, from Europe and I speak better than most of the locals (which is not the case in (her country) where most of the people are whiter and their English is usually good or very good).
 My market value (not only the SMV  ) is very low in (her country), where I can be only a dishwasher or a cleaner... but in South-East Asia I can be a teacher, a restaurant owner, a school owner, etc."
 This is it. If you're an incel and especially an ethnicel (which may mean almost everything -- from Russian to Arab and from Bulgarian to Pakistani, depends on which country are you residing) then better don't target all those developed, rich countries full of Chads because this is a 100% geominn (geo-minn) for you. If you really want to geomaxx (geo-maxx) you should choose a country where the average person isn't so tall, so big (and you can add other positive traits like "so rich", for example or "so white", which is nothing racist; I'm just adding it too because many incels think that the white males are their biggest competitors.) For example, Latin America, South-East Asia, and so on (for example -- Madagascar. "The average Malagasy man is 161.54 cm (5 feet 3.60 inches) tall. The average Malagasy woman is 151.18 cm (4 feet 11.51 inches) tall."^{Source: https://www.insider.com/shortest-people-in-world-by-country-2019-6})
 That's it: don't geominn yourselves, geomaxx yourselves.

[Xsokii]

I personally don't care if you mention me or not but don't do so in a negative way (not saying you are but if you were to make a negative post keep my name out of it. Other than that I don't care if you have my name in it or whatnot)

[Zhang Jie]

Yeah I am also considering migration(geomaxxing) into the U.S/Europe, because:
1. There are more researching resources in the U.S/Europe
2. The burden of living is lesser there.
3. There are way less censorships, more freedoms and more democracies there, as well as the higher rate of crime in the U.S of course though lol.
4. The career life of my major is way more promising there.
5. I don't want to waste my advantage in English.

The biggest problem in the way is that the fee of migration and the difficulty in the application. China is very hard to migrate out of to other countries, in behalf of the non-officials of China though lol.

[MSL]

 Your case is mixed one. You're geomaxxing in sense of: politics, economy, etc. (obviously you'll have more political freedom, access to casinos like in Macao, more free speech, better income...) but you're geominning in sense of your male attractiveness. You know who're one of the most bitter incels online? The so-called ricecels (incels in the West from Korea, China, Japan, Vietnam, etc.) who non-stop complain how hard is for them in the West, how the females choose even black men over them, how even the money-maxx isn't working (like the case of that Elliot Roger, who was a hapacel, in fact), how their parents are guilty to bring them in the West and so on. But at least they're (most of them) born there and they had no choice. But you're making this choice by yourself so, keep in mind that it's nearly 100% volcel choice. (But it's not over! Anytime when you're job-maxxed, money-maxxed and so on, you may find online some good girl from the Philippines, Latin America or Africa, if you wish, even from East Europe like Moldova, Armenia... and I am sure you'll be married at least in this way... well, if you're very lucky you may have a chance even in the West with some so-called unicorn -- one of those rare girls who'll like you because of your mind, knowledge, personality, romantic heart and reasonable attitude.) Just being honest, no offense, no jokes.

[Ethnicel]

Wow man, I am not trying to help you coping by saying you're not ugly. And you're not that short. But moving to something as the US or West Europe (East Europe is totally another story) is a total SMV suicide. If your SMV now in there is like what, 20? 25? "geomaxxing" in the West you're like 2 or 3 at its best.

Keep us updated. I really want to read how a ricecel first generation expiriences the "Westmaxx" personally.

Did you read my story by the way? I'll link it later.

[Ethnicel]

my story of fashionmaxx.

[SEO]

Please, don't speak to Lib, Zhang or whatever his name is about politics because he just can't control his wish to describe how anti-communist is he and here we don't tolerate political talks. Focus on your main problem (the inceldom) and concretely why you're so losers when it comes to have a person to like you (hint: most of the females feel bored when you speak political stuff and they need a hot, rich, good-looking, successful and funny man, not a politologist). Don't put us in this political trap where at any moment the police may search you or, if we're lucky, just to ban the forum in China!

[MSL]

 I remember that economics oriented forum where the rule was "no politics" but later, because the economics and the politics are very related, they allowed a political based section. Well, the were in a place where the free political speech wasn't so complicated and restricted like in China. When you're still in China and you want people from China to access your website, you better avoid the political topics. (Because once banned most of the Chinese visitors are never coming to visit you again; most of the Chinese people aren't well educated about the internet and the majority have no idea what is VPN + even they have, many of them will not spend these dollars per month for the VPN's fee.)
 Another point, even in countries where we think that the free speech is absolute and there are no problems to criticize this or that, still sometimes there may be politicians who'll feel very bad about what you're talking online about them and then, they'll find some way to hurt your website or yourself, which is totally democratic, like "Where are your proves? We'll meet in the court!" or they may just really find some of your real problems and to expose them (for example, some person who's breaking some law even without knowing it)... so, isn't it better to refrain from the political talks, except when it comes to really, really necessary problems like when it comes to our lives, for example (aggressive war (Ukraine), crazy baseless lockdowns ("0 COVID"),...)?
 And yes, there is some correlation: people who're spending too much time thinking of politics score low with the females and the opposite -- people who save time and instead of politics focus on business, sports, popularity online, etc., tend to find a female easier.

[Xsokii]

(hint: most of the females feel bored when you speak political stuff and they need a hot, rich, good-looking, successful and funny man, not a politologist).

I absolutely hate politics.

[Gay]

About the gays, I can say some gays like it but some didn't like it.

[Zhang Jie]

Please, don't speak to Lib, Zhang or whatever his name is about politics because he just can't control his wish to describe how anti-communist is he and here we don't tolerate political talks. Focus on your main problem (the inceldom) and concretely why you're so losers when it comes to have a person to like you (hint: most of the females feel bored when you speak political stuff and they need a hot, rich, good-looking, successful and funny man, not a politologist). Don't put us in this political trap where at any moment the police may search you or, if we're lucky, just to ban the forum in China!

I am awfully sorry to have forgotten that this forum was being censored by C.C.P, but...how? Does the server of this forum belong to China? I don't think the popularity of this forum can even lead to their supervision. And nah, I am deliberately expressing my despites to CCP. I was just elucidating the reason why I planned to geomaxx in a way that would invoke threats to the operation of this forum. That's all.

[Zhang Jie]

Please, don't speak to Lib, Zhang or whatever his name is about politics because he just can't control his wish to describe how anti-communist is he and here we don't tolerate political talks. Focus on your main problem (the inceldom) and concretely why you're so losers when it comes to have a person to like you (hint: most of the females feel bored when you speak political stuff and they need a hot, rich, good-looking, successful and funny man, not a politologist). Don't put us in this political trap where at any moment the police may search you or, if we're lucky, just to ban the forum in China!

I am awfully sorry to have forgotten that this forum was being censored by C.C.P, but...how? Does the server of this forum belong to China? I don't think the popularity of this forum can even lead to their supervision. And nah, I am deliberately expressing my despites to CCP. I was just elucidating the reason why I planned to geomaxx in a way that would invoke threats to the operation of this forum. That's all.

I am *not*

[Gay]

Please, don't speak to Lib, Zhang or whatever his name is about politics because he just can't control his wish to describe how anti-communist is he and here we don't tolerate political talks. Focus on your main problem (the inceldom) and concretely why you're so losers when it comes to have a person to like you (hint: most of the females feel bored when you speak political stuff and they need a hot, rich, good-looking, successful and funny man, not a politologist). Don't put us in this political trap where at any moment the police may search you or, if we're lucky, just to ban the forum in China!

I am awfully sorry to have forgotten that this forum was being censored by C.C.P, but...how? Does the server of this forum belong to China? I don't think the popularity of this forum can even lead to their supervision. And nah, I am deliberately expressing my despites to CCP. I was just elucidating the reason why I planned to geomaxx in a way that would invoke threats to the operation of this forum. That's all.

Thanks for questions, cute boy. I have nothing to hide because I am mr. Internet Gay. Beiyng gay means being happy. Do you know?

gay /ɡeɪ/ adj.
同性恋的;与同性恋者有关的;愉快的;快乐的;充满乐趣的;鲜艳的

https://fanyi.baidu.com/#en/zh/gay

It's not censored by C.C.P. (Who told you this?! Nobody is a party member here too.) The owners are from China and from Europe (co-ownership). The server is in the USA because the owners are poor and they're using 1 dollar webhosting which is impossible to find in Europe nor in China.

The forum is aged (since January 2011) enough popular (got good PageRank, high Alexa rank, visitors from almost every single country around the world, omnilogical and ranked comparatively high in the SERPs of Google, Baidu, Yandex, etc.) and that's how it's enough visible for the supervision. (No need to say that the participation of the philosopher Geser Kurultaev (MSL) makes it more visible and sensitive).

If you (or anybody else) continue to post anti-C.C.P. sentences here, in one moment, the forum will just be put behind the Great Firewall and it will limit its visitors (let's assume 35% of its visitors are from PRC) and it will lead to these big problems

• The incomes (which are only enough to pay the domain, the hosting and to share a little money every year for food because most of us are poor; after "COVID 0" we can't find jobs and/or our salaries were reduced.) will drop with around 1/3.
• The moderators who can't go (still can't go) living abroad and have no money to pay for VPNs will be unable not only to moderate the forum but also unable to read the forum.  (
• In the worst case those living in China (like you) may be summoned to the local public security or police stations to be questioned why we're letting easily Lib (Zhang) from Shanghai to express his anti attitudes.

So, we already (multiple times  ) saw here (and I saw you in another forum by the way how you started with this how you are non-C.C.P. but how you want to protect China). It's enough. Now let's focus on your real problems because this is what will matters one day to your parents, wife, children maybe, close friends... believe me, nobody gives a sh*t are you voting or not, are you a liberal or a conservative, are you reading Diderot or Mao. The vast majority of the people (especially your favorite female people) is going to judge your frame, facial looks, race, income, status, language skill, practical knowledge (how to help her feel better and get what she wants, not to tell her " I am deliberately expressing my despites" to the ghost of something that is already fully under one leader control... or to speak to her about the Trump's, Biden's or Kim's politics...) Help yourself in a practical way; anyway you're going to live abroad and you need to deal with the bigger problems there, start dealing with your language enforcement, bodybuilding, pracical knowledge of the foreign land (like security measures), learn their laws.

[Gay]

(hint: most of the females feel bored when you speak political stuff and they need a hot, rich, good-looking, successful and funny man, not a politologist).

I absolutely hate politics.

Thanks!!! This is an absolute support to what I posted above to Lib-Zhang boyo. The man should avoid these useless and boring for most of the females and gays (and many of the heterosexual males) topics and to work way harder on his foreign western adaptation. I'll tell you a secret. A Chinese man who can't adapt in China (which is way easier because here everything is cleared: no casinos, no gunshots, no mass poor migrants with radical behavior, no too many hooligans on the street, strict police control) will be almost impossible to adapt in the West.

[Incel]

Oh, man... oh... I remember how depressed was Libgen about his school problems. They were something like "The boys hated me and report me to the teacher." and "The girls gossip about it." (Sorry for the oversimplification.) That time we were like "OMG!  This boy surely wouldn't survive if he was in a Western school!" because there you have to deal with gang fights, sometimes -- drugs, guns (or at least knives, brass knuckles, chains, bats...)

Really, instead of speaking over the dead body of an ex-party (which was destroyed as such by a new powerful boss) try to think how you'll survive when you go to edumaxx abroad. Let's say you're in Canada or the U.S. What's going on in these situations, brocel?

A/ You're reading after classes about the "standard deviation of the mean" or something else related to the psychometrics in some bar or park, wherever. And next to you are coming 2 duded and starting calling you a "nerd", a "Chink" and so on. They do it for fun. They want you to cry or in some cases they want to hurt you. In the worst cases they want to rape you, rob you. So, at that moment, would you think it's useful to tell them how anti-Chinese communist you are? Or you will think "F*ck! Why I didn't hit the gym and learn more fighting techniques while I was in Shanghai?"

B/ Let's say you survived that situation because you started to cry, to beg them to stop or some noble guy kicked their asses; or you just was magic fast to call the police and some policeman was nearby... whatever... you survived at least because the gang like dudes were in mood "Okay, leave this Asian loser alone because today I feel high and I love Jesus!"
Then you're meeting the GIRL OF YOUR DREAMS -- the most attractive, nice, pretty, serious and funny at the same time, which you only saw in some of the best mangas or in your dreams! And WHAT IF she is still single? You'll tell her: "Hello! I am anti-Chinese communist but I want to protect China!" (I want to ensure you, that it's 362817368173817381753871538 times better if your pickup line is about the "standard deviation of the mean".) The chance she want's to know something about the IQ (EQ, Love Q), is larger than the chance she to admire you about what a "great social justice anti-communist from China" you are.

Don't get me wrong! I am not saying everything is okay in China. That's why I am not going to live here. I am selling out all of my properties soon and as soon as possible I am going to geomaxx to the Philippines, Malaysia, Thailand, Laos, Cambodia or East Timor. I don't want to protect the present rule that ruined the lives of so many Chinese and foreigners in China, brocel!!! I am so tired, so disappointed and so sad and I am leaving with sorrow!!! But you're so wrong to keep thinking about the political situation instead to hit the best maxxings for you, brocel!
Back to the GIRL OF YOUR DREAMS NOW!

Tell me what she is going to like about you?

1. Politically educated?  Not related.
2. Learniing psychometrics. Well, okay, but who cares.
3. From China. Okay, but only if she is some Asia fan, K-pop fan or something similar. And still, most of the Western people can't think of China as something "Wow!". I am an outlier, I do love China.
4. Not tall. Oh, bad score!
5. Autist. Ups, another bad score.
6. Complaining about the politics in his country. Awwww... so boring!
7. Speaking good English. That's good, thanks God we can at least understand each other!

 And here comes the problem: how you'll compete with her others crushes, orbiters and so on. Even an average Melvin (3/10 - 4/10 western male) will be at least around your height and maybe with a better frame. What about the Chad-lites? And if there is a Chad? Huh? The things may get even more complicated if there is a Chang (another Asian or even exactly a Chinese guy) who did his "ascend homework"  better than you: he's not just tall, he's playing rugby, he's a bodybuilder and he's an owner of self-made vegan restaurant and a sushi bar. And he likes her too.

Aren't you going to feel very pity that while you were in Shanghai you at least didn't spend more time to upgrade your body and to save more time for learning business (instead learning political uselessness?)

Not going to lie you, your one-it-is girl will pick up an orbiter (Melvin-tier or Norman-tier) over you.

We, brocel, will never had this incel talk here if you were saying that you're moving to Vietnam, Taiwan or even Japan or Brazil... but you're heading to states like the US, Canada, Australia... if you don't gym-maxx and money-maxx, you're over there. And the pessimistic news is that even you ascend with some girl online who'll come to you (supposingly from Burma, Bhutan, South Africa, maybe?) what you'll do when she starts to notice all those Chads, Tyrones, Cnangs, Chadpreets around? Brocel, even the Normans around you will mog you (height mog, frame mog, capital mog probably)?...

Friendly reminder: leave all the political crap at once, save your life, 润 (run away) as soon as you can, but be ready: improve the body, improve the fighting skills, learn the locals habits, law system, subculture.